Alastair Campbell

It's because that essentially is almost saying that Iran, in the current set of circumstances, has a greater justification to defend itself because it has come under attack.

So that, I think, goes to the heart of it.

But, you know, where you're absolutely right, and of course, this is interesting territory for you because, I mean, when was it you got into a real row with J.D.

Vance, none other than J.D.

Vance, when you, that was over Ordo Amoris, wasn't it?

Yeah.

There's a couple of things that just underline this point that it's all about him.

So, for example, when he was quizzed by a journalist the other day and somebody mentioned the gospel, the Pope was explaining the gospel.

And Trump's response was this.

He made a note.

I'm all about the gospel.

His brother is MAGA all the way.

The Pope's brother.

So I'm all about the gospel.

His brother is MAGA all the way.

And then the next thing is that they cancelled an £11 million fund, which, okay, in the overall budget of the administration is tiny, but it was for a charity called

The Catholic church charity that deals with children of immigrants, helps children of immigrants.

And then you have Hexerth saying, I don't know if you saw his latest rant at the media, he says, the press are the Pharisees.

Again, making you think that Trump is Jesus.

Right.