Alastair Campbell

And this was the same thing when he said, this is the guy who was downed on Friday and rose on Sunday.

So to go back to my point about the Holocaust Museum, point eight, this is a deliberate thing of constantly wrapping up what they're doing

in religious rhetoric.

And if you are somebody like Pope Leo, who clearly, clearly can't stand what these people are doing to America and to the world, then you can see why he would get very, very offended.

I'm very grateful to one of our listeners called Stephen Rogers, who's down in Bristol.

And after the episode with Dominic, he wrote to me and said that the poster you're quoting from the Washington Holocaust Museum was actually from an essay by a guy called Lawrence W. Britt called Fascism Anyone.

He said, even more interesting, Lawrence W. Britt wrote a novel in 1997 entitled

which was called June 2004.

And he said, I think you'd find it very, very interesting.

The trouble is it's out of print.

If you've struggled to find one, I'll send you mine.

It's out of print.

Couldn't find it anywhere.

He sent it to me.

And obviously, somebody needs to bring it back into print.

So it was published in 1998.

It's called June 2004.

I've now finished it.

I won't give away the whole story, but essentially the story is this.

On the back of an economic crash, a very right wing, charismatic celebrity politician takes over and suborns and transforms the Republican Party.