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Initially, Kristen's mom Phyllis was kind of apprehensive about her daughter visiting a boy that she didn't really know too well several states away and unaccompanied.

Initially, Kristen's mom Phyllis was kind of apprehensive about her daughter visiting a boy that she didn't really know too well several states away and unaccompanied.

In fact, according to Kristen's brother Kyle, his parents actually were arguing about it for a few days before Kristen actually did leave. The dad, Michael, eventually convinced his wife that, quote, it was time to let Kristen be a woman and make her own decisions. So Phyllis obviously eventually agreed to let her go, reasoning that Kristen had always been a really responsible girl.

In fact, according to Kristen's brother Kyle, his parents actually were arguing about it for a few days before Kristen actually did leave. The dad, Michael, eventually convinced his wife that, quote, it was time to let Kristen be a woman and make her own decisions. So Phyllis obviously eventually agreed to let her go, reasoning that Kristen had always been a really responsible girl.

She'd always been very trustworthy. So there was really no reason not to let her go other than her own apprehension.

She'd always been very trustworthy. So there was really no reason not to let her go other than her own apprehension.

Yeah. And it's hard. I mean, she's an adult, technically.

Yeah. And it's hard. I mean, she's an adult, technically.

Well, and I think as soon as your kids turn like 17, 18, 19, that's a really hard age. Oh, I can't even fathom.

Well, and I think as soon as your kids turn like 17, 18, 19, that's a really hard age. Oh, I can't even fathom.

Like you have to, you know.

Like you have to, you know.

and it's like a loss of control and control is not always a bad thing you know it's true but she was so excited when she left that day she came in kissed me and said mom don't worry everything's fine it'll be fine so with her parents consent now kristin traveled from minnesota to boston where a family friend picked her up and then drove her to syracuse new york where james vermeers and one of his friends picked her up okay

and it's like a loss of control and control is not always a bad thing you know it's true but she was so excited when she left that day she came in kissed me and said mom don't worry everything's fine it'll be fine so with her parents consent now kristin traveled from minnesota to boston where a family friend picked her up and then drove her to syracuse new york where james vermeers and one of his friends picked her up okay

So Kristen arrived in New York on the night of Monday, August 12th, and her plan was to stay until that Friday. So not a super long time. Yeah. She was really, really excited about this trip. Super excited to see James, like I said, get to know him better. Yeah. But her enthusiasm started to wane almost as soon as she arrived in New York. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Let's talk numbers.

So Kristen arrived in New York on the night of Monday, August 12th, and her plan was to stay until that Friday. So not a super long time. Yeah. She was really, really excited about this trip. Super excited to see James, like I said, get to know him better. Yeah. But her enthusiasm started to wane almost as soon as she arrived in New York. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Let's talk numbers.

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