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So that, to me, tells me everything. It's like, you didn't want to intervene on that? What the fuck were you going to intervene on? Nothing if it cost them money. It's crazy. I very much encourage you to look into that whole part of it because it's wild.

So that, to me, tells me everything. It's like, you didn't want to intervene on that? What the fuck were you going to intervene on? Nothing if it cost them money. It's crazy. I very much encourage you to look into that whole part of it because it's wild.

And it must be frustrating that nobody's fucking listening to you. Yeah. Now, since Elizabeth Short's body was found in that vacant lot in 1947, her murder has fascinated. And I'm one of those people. Fascinated the public and generated no small amount of myths, legends, lore, everything associated with it. By this point, it's entirely likely what's known about the victim in the case is...

And it must be frustrating that nobody's fucking listening to you. Yeah. Now, since Elizabeth Short's body was found in that vacant lot in 1947, her murder has fascinated. And I'm one of those people. Fascinated the public and generated no small amount of myths, legends, lore, everything associated with it. By this point, it's entirely likely what's known about the victim in the case is...

a lot of legend in fact like we've given you all the facts we can but a lot of things you'll hear we were talking about how like you know she went to Hollywood to become a star like that's that was true it's a very small piece of it yeah it's like she had a lot more that she wanted to accomplish out there like getting her life together and like starting over yeah being healthy being able to breathe like meeting someone she had all kinds of aspirations yeah so it's like a lot of this became you know and there's things you'll hear that you can easily debunk yeah

a lot of legend in fact like we've given you all the facts we can but a lot of things you'll hear we were talking about how like you know she went to Hollywood to become a star like that's that was true it's a very small piece of it yeah it's like she had a lot more that she wanted to accomplish out there like getting her life together and like starting over yeah being healthy being able to breathe like meeting someone she had all kinds of aspirations yeah so it's like a lot of this became you know and there's things you'll hear that you can easily debunk yeah

On one hand, the notoriety of the case, you know, it's surprising because there was very little evidence that they had. And it's not like Elizabeth Short was like a famous actress at the time. She was, you know, a civilian walking around trying to get a job. But when you look at how she was found, what she endured...

On one hand, the notoriety of the case, you know, it's surprising because there was very little evidence that they had. And it's not like Elizabeth Short was like a famous actress at the time. She was, you know, a civilian walking around trying to get a job. But when you look at how she was found, what she endured...

and the mystery surrounding her, it's easier to understand why this has become such a fascination for everybody. And the pool of suspects. That pool of suspects. And just, like, that crime scene, there's no way this wasn't going to fascinate people.

and the mystery surrounding her, it's easier to understand why this has become such a fascination for everybody. And the pool of suspects. That pool of suspects. And just, like, that crime scene, there's no way this wasn't going to fascinate people.

And this also is like the intersection between Hollywood and murder, which is something that always is going to get everybody's attention.

And this also is like the intersection between Hollywood and murder, which is something that always is going to get everybody's attention.

It's a fascinating place. It's a dark place. It's so dark. It's a scary place. It's a beautiful place. It's a shimmery place. It's layered. It is so layered. Since her death, you know, Elizabeth Short has become a symbol for anyone, you know, hoping to moralize in one direction or the other. Because a lot is placed on, you know, how many boyfriends she had and what she was doing with her life.

It's a fascinating place. It's a dark place. It's so dark. It's a scary place. It's a beautiful place. It's a shimmery place. It's layered. It is so layered. Since her death, you know, Elizabeth Short has become a symbol for anyone, you know, hoping to moralize in one direction or the other. Because a lot is placed on, you know, how many boyfriends she had and what she was doing with her life.

It doesn't matter. Whatever the facts, it seems unlikely that anyone's going to be really satisfied with an ending to this case because people have so many different... Theories. Thoughts and theories. But... I think people, I almost think it's like the Jack the Ripper case where you don't even know anymore if people want it solved. That are not like part of the case, you know what I mean?

It doesn't matter. Whatever the facts, it seems unlikely that anyone's going to be really satisfied with an ending to this case because people have so many different... Theories. Thoughts and theories. But... I think people, I almost think it's like the Jack the Ripper case where you don't even know anymore if people want it solved. That are not like part of the case, you know what I mean?

That they just want to keep talking about it and keep theorizing. A former LA Times reporter, Larry Harnish, who we mentioned earlier, said people don't want the record set straight. People want this grab bag of noir tropes, which is not great. Honestly, you said it perfectly. It's a bunch of noir tropes. A grab bag of noir tropes. And when you really look at the reality of the case,

That they just want to keep talking about it and keep theorizing. A former LA Times reporter, Larry Harnish, who we mentioned earlier, said people don't want the record set straight. People want this grab bag of noir tropes, which is not great. Honestly, you said it perfectly. It's a bunch of noir tropes. A grab bag of noir tropes. And when you really look at the reality of the case,

And this is just our opinion that I think Steve Hodel is on to something here.

And this is just our opinion that I think Steve Hodel is on to something here.