Alex Cooper

And it just isn't for men for some reason.

Do you think that we've made any progress that like one woman's success doesn't take away from the others?

Like, do you think people are starting to be more acclimated to that concept?

I also just feel like, speaking of 50 years, you both have probably been there for each other in...

The darkest, hardest moments.

And she's been down.

And usually if she's down, you're up.

And if you're down, she's up.

And that is friendship where it's like someone has to in the moment be the anchor when the other person is going through it.

And it always should be flip flopping because that's life.

Right.

And if it is always one person that's needing it, needing it, needing it, then that's probably not as balanced of a friendship.

Absolutely.

And it feels like you guys have been able to navigate decades together in this beautiful push and pull of you need me.

I got you.

I need you.

I got you.

That's just how it is.

Will there be a party for this 50th anniversary?

Gail, I actually have never asked anyone this because I wouldn't.