Alex Davies-Jones

Talking about the prime minister's character.

So she's effectively saying you're a decent guy, but I don't think you've got enough punch in you.

And she goes on to say, standing up and being counted can't always be workshopped.

The reason I pull it out is because I think this is a criticism that you hear about Keir Starmer, even from people that do support him as prime minister.

He's a decent man, but has he got the fight for this?

You know, you can't always do this in a kind of technocratic way.

You've got to somehow be able to show the passion and take the lead and take people with you.

It's that sort of bit that you hear from, yes, critics of Keir Starmer, but even supporters of him who really, really want him to do well,

It's that thing that they want to see a little bit more of.

And I think that line might resonate with some people in the party, not saying it will shift their positions, but there just may well be a resonance.

No, and it happened very quickly as well.

You know, I remember that sort of the first cabinet minister went and then it was just this sort of sense of inevitability.

And then there was this sort of quick tumbling and it was almost like a kind of collapse of the apparatus of government.

Lots of key figures went and it just was very obvious incongruity.

incredibly quickly that Boris Johnson couldn't sustain his position because of what had happened.

This is not that at this stage.

Yes, there are an awful lot of people publicly expressing their unhappiness or anger or frustration or whatever it might be with the Prime Minister at the moment.

But I think, first off, there are four ministerial jobs that have gone.

I think he'll endeavour to replace them pretty quickly, as he did with the PPSs that we saw.

Yeah.