Alex Forsyth

So, yeah, there isn't even, as James says, consensus within the parties, but it feels like it's a very active debate.

He is quite specific on that.

And just for the history books, so at the last Holyrood elections, the SNP fell one seat short of a majority.

And the last time the SNP won an outright majority in Holyrood, James will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it was 2011 under Alex Sullivan.

Correct.

So yes, so that is what John Sunis said.

It can't just be other parties that support independence would count as the majority that he's pointing towards.

It has to be an SNP majority in Holyrood for him to win.

Ask the question about the referendum.

But as you say, that doesn't automatically lead to a mechanism.

What's interesting, which goes to that point about Labour being conscious of where they're currently sitting, the kind of threats they're facing and what they're having to do in this campaign is, of course, what happened with Anas Sarwar when he called for the resignation of Keir Starmer.

And so what he's done is some people saw that as a gamble or a risk.

He said that it was just him being honest about his perspective.

But what that also was, in some people's reading, is a sort of admission of

of the fact that the Labour government in Westminster is not necessarily going well down on the doorsteps in Scotland.

And so Anasawa has now given himself, and some people will think it was the wrong decision, some people will think it was the right one, he's given himself the case to make on the doorstep about what he is saying is Scottish Labour's offer for Scotland, which again kind of speaks to this awareness of some of the difficulties and challenges that Labour, not just Labour exclusively, but certainly Labour have been facing in this particular election campaign.

I mean, maybe not necessarily, but I do also just wonder if there's a counter view, which says certainly when you take politics across the board beyond Scotland, that people have tried and tasted personality led politics and they don't always love it.

And, you know, actually, there are some politicians that might make the case for kind of quiet and stable, I guess, you know, so perhaps you don't get the characters with the same level of name recognition out there.

Is that what people want?

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