Alex Gibney

Yeah. And and and but you can see the rumble. People are getting angry. You know, I'm talking to you from Maine and Maine's got a pretty robust set of rules about, you know, against money and always has on state political level.

Yeah. And and and but you can see the rumble. People are getting angry. You know, I'm talking to you from Maine and Maine's got a pretty robust set of rules about, you know, against money and always has on state political level.

Yeah. And and and but you can see the rumble. People are getting angry. You know, I'm talking to you from Maine and Maine's got a pretty robust set of rules about, you know, against money and always has on state political level.

Right. And I think that, you know, your beginning, what happened in Wisconsin was a kind of emotional pushback. But I also think that it's interesting, this campaign that AOC and Bernie Sanders are running, sometimes in liberal districts, sometimes in red districts, they are turning out some pretty big crowds. And I think the anger that...

Right. And I think that, you know, your beginning, what happened in Wisconsin was a kind of emotional pushback. But I also think that it's interesting, this campaign that AOC and Bernie Sanders are running, sometimes in liberal districts, sometimes in red districts, they are turning out some pretty big crowds. And I think the anger that...

Right. And I think that, you know, your beginning, what happened in Wisconsin was a kind of emotional pushback. But I also think that it's interesting, this campaign that AOC and Bernie Sanders are running, sometimes in liberal districts, sometimes in red districts, they are turning out some pretty big crowds. And I think the anger that...

um that they're invoking or channeling is the anger toward a rigged system where whether you're democrat or republican it's the rich people who are calling the shots and we're getting policies that benefit them not the rest of us

um that they're invoking or channeling is the anger toward a rigged system where whether you're democrat or republican it's the rich people who are calling the shots and we're getting policies that benefit them not the rest of us

um that they're invoking or channeling is the anger toward a rigged system where whether you're democrat or republican it's the rich people who are calling the shots and we're getting policies that benefit them not the rest of us

Right. I think that's right. I mean, but, you know, one of the things I tried to point out in Ohio Confidential, though, is that as you talk about money and politics, it's also true that for most people, nobody likes a bribe. Right. Right.

Right. I think that's right. I mean, but, you know, one of the things I tried to point out in Ohio Confidential, though, is that as you talk about money and politics, it's also true that for most people, nobody likes a bribe. Right. Right.

Right. I think that's right. I mean, but, you know, one of the things I tried to point out in Ohio Confidential, though, is that as you talk about money and politics, it's also true that for most people, nobody likes a bribe. Right. Right.

feel it's unfair it's wrong you know you see it in crime films and and you know you you you wish them ill um i i we've done a lot on ohio confidential the second by the way how do you describe this series is this because it's not it's two films it started out as one film and then we just got too much material i mean we got into the ohio story it was so good

feel it's unfair it's wrong you know you see it in crime films and and you know you you you wish them ill um i i we've done a lot on ohio confidential the second by the way how do you describe this series is this because it's not it's two films it started out as one film and then we just got too much material i mean we got into the ohio story it was so good

feel it's unfair it's wrong you know you see it in crime films and and you know you you you wish them ill um i i we've done a lot on ohio confidential the second by the way how do you describe this series is this because it's not it's two films it started out as one film and then we just got too much material i mean we got into the ohio story it was so good

Also, we discovered this guy, the Reverend Bob Schenk, who had kind of infiltrated the Supreme Court. So suddenly the film that was going to be one just split into two. But they're not, you know, they're not episodic in the way that one leads to another. So there are two films that are related. There are two independent films that are related by a common theme.

Also, we discovered this guy, the Reverend Bob Schenk, who had kind of infiltrated the Supreme Court. So suddenly the film that was going to be one just split into two. But they're not, you know, they're not episodic in the way that one leads to another. So there are two films that are related. There are two independent films that are related by a common theme.

Also, we discovered this guy, the Reverend Bob Schenk, who had kind of infiltrated the Supreme Court. So suddenly the film that was going to be one just split into two. But they're not, you know, they're not episodic in the way that one leads to another. So there are two films that are related. There are two independent films that are related by a common theme.

Yeah, so that, I mean- You had evangelical Christians who were fiercely anti-abortion, but they weren't getting over. They needed money. You had people with money who wanted to deregulate the American political system because they didn't want things like laws that regulated the amount of pollution that they could dump into rivers and lakes and any regulations on cigarettes or anything like that.

Yeah, so that, I mean- You had evangelical Christians who were fiercely anti-abortion, but they weren't getting over. They needed money. You had people with money who wanted to deregulate the American political system because they didn't want things like laws that regulated the amount of pollution that they could dump into rivers and lakes and any regulations on cigarettes or anything like that.