Alex Gibney

So there was something terrifying at the heart of it that said something very deep and disturbing about human nature. And also it was told as a story about a poor innocent who got caught in a machine, you know, of cruelty.

So there was something terrifying at the heart of it that said something very deep and disturbing about human nature. And also it was told as a story about a poor innocent who got caught in a machine, you know, of cruelty.

Well, I think there was always this thinking, which was ironic in this case, like if you made something really well, you might win awards. Right. Now, awards are sometimes economically viable and sometimes they're good for business long term.

Well, I think there was always this thinking, which was ironic in this case, like if you made something really well, you might win awards. Right. Now, awards are sometimes economically viable and sometimes they're good for business long term.

Well, I think there was always this thinking, which was ironic in this case, like if you made something really well, you might win awards. Right. Now, awards are sometimes economically viable and sometimes they're good for business long term.

They had a philosophy which was communities of interest. And so long as you could keep those people subscribing to your service, that was good. Right. And they would be super happy. Now, other people might come over to it, but if people weren't that interested, maybe they wouldn't come to it.

They had a philosophy which was communities of interest. And so long as you could keep those people subscribing to your service, that was good. Right. And they would be super happy. Now, other people might come over to it, but if people weren't that interested, maybe they wouldn't come to it.

They had a philosophy which was communities of interest. And so long as you could keep those people subscribing to your service, that was good. Right. And they would be super happy. Now, other people might come over to it, but if people weren't that interested, maybe they wouldn't come to it.

So it was just a way of getting some people hugely excited about a film as opposed to trying to get everybody excited. willing to buy that soggy croissant.

So it was just a way of getting some people hugely excited about a film as opposed to trying to get everybody excited. willing to buy that soggy croissant.

So it was just a way of getting some people hugely excited about a film as opposed to trying to get everybody excited. willing to buy that soggy croissant.

Right, and you're also not afraid... when it comes to certain subjects to offend people.

Right, and you're also not afraid... when it comes to certain subjects to offend people.

Right, and you're also not afraid... when it comes to certain subjects to offend people.

I think, you know, I really do think it starts with the pandemic.

I think, you know, I really do think it starts with the pandemic.

I think, you know, I really do think it starts with the pandemic.

Yeah. I think there may have been warning signs about it before, but the pandemic really does it because the pandemic takes away theatrical. And theatrical, even in the small indie world, you know, people would go out to those films, they would pop up.

Yeah. I think there may have been warning signs about it before, but the pandemic really does it because the pandemic takes away theatrical. And theatrical, even in the small indie world, you know, people would go out to those films, they would pop up.

Yeah. I think there may have been warning signs about it before, but the pandemic really does it because the pandemic takes away theatrical. And theatrical, even in the small indie world, you know, people would go out to those films, they would pop up.