Alex Gibney

Well, it's not open under the current system. So something new is going to have to come along to blow it open again. Because HBO also, remember, was a different kind of a system. And it was coming up and they knew they had to do something different or they weren't going to I mean, what's the point of trying to become another network?

Well, it's not open under the current system. So something new is going to have to come along to blow it open again. Because HBO also, remember, was a different kind of a system. And it was coming up and they knew they had to do something different or they weren't going to I mean, what's the point of trying to become another network?

Well, it's not open under the current system. So something new is going to have to come along to blow it open again. Because HBO also, remember, was a different kind of a system. And it was coming up and they knew they had to do something different or they weren't going to I mean, what's the point of trying to become another network?

If you're far behind in a sailing race, it doesn't make any sense to follow the same wind that's already got those boats that are way ahead of you. You tack on a different course and hope to catch a different kind of a wind. So at the moment, it's pretty bleak for trying to do personal art that's going to connect with viewers.

If you're far behind in a sailing race, it doesn't make any sense to follow the same wind that's already got those boats that are way ahead of you. You tack on a different course and hope to catch a different kind of a wind. So at the moment, it's pretty bleak for trying to do personal art that's going to connect with viewers.

If you're far behind in a sailing race, it doesn't make any sense to follow the same wind that's already got those boats that are way ahead of you. You tack on a different course and hope to catch a different kind of a wind. So at the moment, it's pretty bleak for trying to do personal art that's going to connect with viewers.

But the hope is, the hope at the bottom of Pandora's box after a lot of bad shit has come out, is that there is a new distribution mechanism out there that will allow this relationship once again to find a way. You know, and it's kind of what you see happening in journalism.

But the hope is, the hope at the bottom of Pandora's box after a lot of bad shit has come out, is that there is a new distribution mechanism out there that will allow this relationship once again to find a way. You know, and it's kind of what you see happening in journalism.

But the hope is, the hope at the bottom of Pandora's box after a lot of bad shit has come out, is that there is a new distribution mechanism out there that will allow this relationship once again to find a way. You know, and it's kind of what you see happening in journalism.

Like the Substack model is interesting because suddenly you see some people are making bank on Substack by going directly to their readers. Yeah. Interesting. That was the hope in podcasts for a while, too. And actually, I think podcasts, you know, some over time still find a way to get audiences, but it's not as easy as it seemed like it was going to be at first.

Like the Substack model is interesting because suddenly you see some people are making bank on Substack by going directly to their readers. Yeah. Interesting. That was the hope in podcasts for a while, too. And actually, I think podcasts, you know, some over time still find a way to get audiences, but it's not as easy as it seemed like it was going to be at first.

Like the Substack model is interesting because suddenly you see some people are making bank on Substack by going directly to their readers. Yeah. Interesting. That was the hope in podcasts for a while, too. And actually, I think podcasts, you know, some over time still find a way to get audiences, but it's not as easy as it seemed like it was going to be at first.

And also, you know, some key players in the distribution universe are are tech players who have other businesses. Yes. You know, if I'm Apple, do I want to do anything that's going to offend somebody and so they might not buy an iPhone or an iPad? And if I'm Amazon, do I want to do something that might offend somebody who might buy their sneakers on Amazon? You know?

And also, you know, some key players in the distribution universe are are tech players who have other businesses. Yes. You know, if I'm Apple, do I want to do anything that's going to offend somebody and so they might not buy an iPhone or an iPad? And if I'm Amazon, do I want to do something that might offend somebody who might buy their sneakers on Amazon? You know?

And also, you know, some key players in the distribution universe are are tech players who have other businesses. Yes. You know, if I'm Apple, do I want to do anything that's going to offend somebody and so they might not buy an iPhone or an iPad? And if I'm Amazon, do I want to do something that might offend somebody who might buy their sneakers on Amazon? You know?

No, I mean, I think they think, let's do stuff that's entertaining. And they hire executives who've been in the business before. But over time, tendencies emerge.

No, I mean, I think they think, let's do stuff that's entertaining. And they hire executives who've been in the business before. But over time, tendencies emerge.

No, I mean, I think they think, let's do stuff that's entertaining. And they hire executives who've been in the business before. But over time, tendencies emerge.

And the tendencies are, let's do the thing that worked the last time.

And the tendencies are, let's do the thing that worked the last time.