Alex Heath

And also the people at Kalshi can't trade.

So we, because we run a regular exchange, we cannot actually trade.

You have a no trading rule.

It's also like the regs, the regulatory framework doesn't enable us to trade on one exchange.

It's an interesting thing because, you know, it's hard to build a product when you can actually reuse it.

It makes it a little bit harder.

So there's like that interesting dynamic.

I just have to be very close to the customers.

Like really, really be very, I mean, it's cliche, like all companies obviously talk a lot about staying close to the customer, but I think this is especially true here where you just have to really be

at all times as close as possible to the customer to basically figure out what you need to build and how to make it better and what are the points of friction.

But there are some industries where the technologist or the product builder

cannot fully experience their own products.

You know, it's, it could be like in hard tech, or like, if you're kind of machinery, like, right, like you, you're not sitting in the office and like operating some heavy machinery.

And so you also have to really kind of embed yourself with the customer.

But yeah, no, I think it's feasible, but it is a challenge.

Yeah, but it also would work.

You have to have like a six-month post-calci period.

So if you leave, you have to wait for six months before you could trade.

So, but it is, I mean, there are ways to kind of like, like you could still use the app without trading, right?

Like, so that could get you a lot of the, I mean, that could get you a lot of the flows, except for maybe the core trading flow.