Alex Heath

Yeah, he's done a lot of self-reflection, you can tell. And in the back half of this interview, we get into a lot of the brand stuff around Meta, how he's worked through the last few years, where he sees the company going now, which is, in his own words, nonpartisan.

Yeah, he's done a lot of self-reflection, you can tell. And in the back half of this interview, we get into a lot of the brand stuff around Meta, how he's worked through the last few years, where he sees the company going now, which is, in his own words, nonpartisan.

Yeah, he's done a lot of self-reflection, you can tell. And in the back half of this interview, we get into a lot of the brand stuff around Meta, how he's worked through the last few years, where he sees the company going now, which is, in his own words, nonpartisan.

And even admitting kind of in that that he may be naive in thinking that a company like Meta can be nonpartisan, but he's going to try to play a backseat role to all of the discourse that really engulfed the company for the last 10 years. And we get into all of the dicey stuff. We get into social media's link to teen mental health.

And even admitting kind of in that that he may be naive in thinking that a company like Meta can be nonpartisan, but he's going to try to play a backseat role to all of the discourse that really engulfed the company for the last 10 years. And we get into all of the dicey stuff. We get into social media's link to teen mental health.

And even admitting kind of in that that he may be naive in thinking that a company like Meta can be nonpartisan, but he's going to try to play a backseat role to all of the discourse that really engulfed the company for the last 10 years. And we get into all of the dicey stuff. We get into social media's link to teen mental health.

We get into Cambridge Analytica and how he thinks the company was unfairly blamed for it in hindsight. Yeah, I would say this is a new Zuckerberg, and it was fascinating to hear him talk about all of this in retrospect.

We get into Cambridge Analytica and how he thinks the company was unfairly blamed for it in hindsight. Yeah, I would say this is a new Zuckerberg, and it was fascinating to hear him talk about all of this in retrospect.

We get into Cambridge Analytica and how he thinks the company was unfairly blamed for it in hindsight. Yeah, I would say this is a new Zuckerberg, and it was fascinating to hear him talk about all of this in retrospect.

Mark, we just tried Orion together. Yeah, what'd you think? Refresh off of it. It feels like true AR glasses are finally getting closer. Orion is a product that you all have been working on for five plus years.

Mark, we just tried Orion together. Yeah, what'd you think? Refresh off of it. It feels like true AR glasses are finally getting closer. Orion is a product that you all have been working on for five plus years.

Mark, we just tried Orion together. Yeah, what'd you think? Refresh off of it. It feels like true AR glasses are finally getting closer. Orion is a product that you all have been working on for five plus years.

Almost 10?

Almost 10?

Almost 10?

So take me back to the beginning when you started the project, when it started in research. What were you thinking about? What was the goal for it?

So take me back to the beginning when you started the project, when it started in research. What were you thinking about? What was the goal for it?

So take me back to the beginning when you started the project, when it started in research. What were you thinking about? What was the goal for it?

It's my understanding that you originally hoped Orion would be a consumer product when you first set out to build it.

It's my understanding that you originally hoped Orion would be a consumer product when you first set out to build it.