Alex Honnold

Oh, all the time.

That's actually something that I think, you know, I've obviously done so many interviews around fear and, like, managing fear and all that.

And I've talked about fear a lot of different ways over the years.

And I think as I've gotten older, I've sort of come to realize that actually you're just scared all the time as a climber.

Like low-level fear.

But climbing is fundamentally scary.

Like it's always kind of scary because there are always consequences.

Like even if you're climbing with a rope, you're still always visualizing like what happens if the rope breaks?

Like what if, you know, like is this safe?

Like, you know, is the gear good?

Like is this actually safe?

And so you're always a little bit scared.

And so...

after years and years of always being scared, you get pretty good at managing that kind of stuff.

It was like too short of a scene in the film.

They needed a little more.

They need to let it breathe, you know, explain things a little better, I think.

But, like, shown just this image, like, what does that even mean?

Like, my brain's purple and his brain is orange.

You're like, what does that mean?