Alex Honnold

Like, presque ne compte pas, like, almost doesn't count.

It's funny because I feel like a lot of my adult life now, one of my sort of go-to things is, you know, don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

I'm really into, like, good enough.

Like, it's better to, like, try.

It's better to do something.

You know, it's better to fail quickly and learn and keep moving forward than to not try something.

Like, basically, I don't want to be crippled by perfectionism.

Sort of like my mom is very much a perfectionist.

You know, like, if you can't do it right, don't do it.

I'm sort of like, I think it's better to try and learn and improve.

Yeah, she has, for sure.

No, it was a very unemotional household.

That said, though, you know, it was a safe, relatively happy household.

Like it was fine, you know, and I was close to a lot of my extended family.

And so I had a really good relation with my grandparents and some of my aunts and uncles.

And so, I mean, I basically would have characterized it as a totally happy family life until I became older and started seeing other people's families more and was kind of like, oh, this seems even happier.

You know what I mean?

Where it's like basically really good.

Until you see what else it can be, and then you're like, this seems even better.

And your mom wasn't ever affectionate.