Alex Honnold

Like I'm a middle class suburban kid.

Both my parents – like nobody in my family is athletic.

Like nobody is good at sports at all.

It's like basically if you were to like look at the – like if I was a video game character and you were to look at all my little bars, you'd be like that guy is not going to be an athlete.

Like he's not good at this.

It's like my parents are professors and we freaking read books.

Like I'm not –

There's no aptitude for anything, really.

And I was like bad at sports as a kid.

I'm not good with balls.

Like, you know, there's no reason.

But I mean, really, I just have loved climbing enough that I've been willing to put in a tremendous amount of time and effort and eventually get good at it.

And I'm kind of like to hear people say like, oh, your brain's different.

You're kind of like, well, everybody's brain is a little bit different in some ways.

It doesn't mean that you can't devote yourself to something that you care about.

Yeah, well, you haven't taken on...

You're type A1.

You're type A12 or whatever.

Just the little pieces at the bottom.

Actually, this is why when you ask about any big goals, sometimes I think the big goals are slightly limiting because if you're your friend who's laying in bed,