Alex Honnold

Yeah, some of those things are sort of like the secondary and tertiary benefits, where it's like when you empower certain kinds of communities, then they're better able to take care of their lands and things like that.

Some of that has to do with indigenous sovereignty and things like in the Ecuadorian Amazon and places where it's like when the local people have power, suddenly they can protect their land from illegal logging, illegal mining, things like that.

And so then you wind up having this knockoff like environmental benefit that's like also great in addition to the human aspect where you're like, well, these people are living better lives and to help save the planet.

Yeah, I've been given roughly a third of what I make every year since 2012.

And that's basically just sort of coincidentally tracked with the overhead for the foundation.

So it just means that anything that people contribute goes straight to projects because I basically cover all the staffing and everything.

Hanelfoundation.org is the easiest way.

You can support directly.

I mean, you can see all the projects that we're working with.

Yeah.

I mean, to me, the foundation has always been my attempt at doing something useful.

It's like, I love rock climbing.

I think it's so fun.

But in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter in the world.

And I feel like the work that we're doing through the Haunted Foundation, at least material improves the well-being of other humans.

You know, like it actually has a real impact both for the environment and for people.

Well, that's definitely the best frame.

Like, that's the framing that I hope for.

And that's, you know... But I think...

That's the best-case scenario for my climbing, and I hope that that's how people take it.