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Alex Horton

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Was The U.S. Attack On A Venezuelan Boat A War Crime?

We were fighting street to street and house to house with the group that would become the Islamic State movement.

Fresh Air
Was The U.S. Attack On A Venezuelan Boat A War Crime?

And we were on patrol on a particularly heavy fighting day.

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Was The U.S. Attack On A Venezuelan Boat A War Crime?

And we set up in a school to sort of look out over some rooftops.

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Was The U.S. Attack On A Venezuelan Boat A War Crime?

And we watched a two-man machine gun team set up and put their gun in our direction to get ready to fire.

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Was The U.S. Attack On A Venezuelan Boat A War Crime?

So several of us shot them while they were setting up.

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Was The U.S. Attack On A Venezuelan Boat A War Crime?

They stopped moving for the most part.

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Was The U.S. Attack On A Venezuelan Boat A War Crime?

We kept shooting just to make sure that they were dead.

Fresh Air
Was The U.S. Attack On A Venezuelan Boat A War Crime?

We couldn't go there and check.

Fresh Air
Was The U.S. Attack On A Venezuelan Boat A War Crime?

And then after a few minutes, we called in an Apache gunship to shoot a hellfire into the building to do two things.

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Was The U.S. Attack On A Venezuelan Boat A War Crime?

One, to make sure they were dead.

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Was The U.S. Attack On A Venezuelan Boat A War Crime?

And two, to kill any other militants that we weren't even sure about that we didn't see at the time.

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Was The U.S. Attack On A Venezuelan Boat A War Crime?

And that's permissible because we had an engagement.

Fresh Air
Was The U.S. Attack On A Venezuelan Boat A War Crime?

We knew there were armed militants in the area.

Fresh Air
Was The U.S. Attack On A Venezuelan Boat A War Crime?

We knew civilians were by and large had evacuated.

Fresh Air
Was The U.S. Attack On A Venezuelan Boat A War Crime?

And, you know, we couldn't be sure that they were killed until we got closer to them.

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Was The U.S. Attack On A Venezuelan Boat A War Crime?

If we were to have gotten closer to them, this calculus would change.

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Was The U.S. Attack On A Venezuelan Boat A War Crime?

You know, that we would see they were wounded.

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Was The U.S. Attack On A Venezuelan Boat A War Crime?

And if they cannot reach a gun or if they don't have explosives on them, then it would become our obligation and responsibility to help them.

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Was The U.S. Attack On A Venezuelan Boat A War Crime?

There's a very stark line between these two, and it's much less forgiving for this type of environment.

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Was The U.S. Attack On A Venezuelan Boat A War Crime?

If a U.S.