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Alex Imas

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

If it's going to make it to the S&P 500, it is because it has leveraged AI.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

Yeah, exactly.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

But then again, I guess it is totally, if you just look at how concentrated the S&P is over time, you know, just like these big tech companies, much more so.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

I guess this goes to a fundamental point that it's hard to reason about, about how much of the gains from AI these individual private companies will be able to control.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

And this goes to show you that every question is connected to every other, because then that question about whether there's runaway gains connects to questions about recursive self-improvement.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

And even if not recursive self-improvement, then continual learning, or online learning, which lets a model learn on the job.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

So if it's deployed, it gets to learn more.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

And these are just sort of like forecasting technical questions, which then impact, I guess, whether Uganda will have any purchase on the returns of AGI.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

But it sounds like your answer really... The reason I'm emphasizing the question is I think both for the messy middle and for developing countries, a recommendation that is often made naively is you got to do some kind of retraining.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

You got to do some kind of like...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

jobs program, or you got to have them build data centers in our country.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

And I think you guys are suggesting something closer to just buy the index of AGI.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

That's like a probably much more cleaner and much more likely to succeed strategy.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

And yeah, so I don't, I don't, I don't think there's that much of a, an either or there.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

Like, I mean, maybe the reason to be pessimistic about this is because one of the reasons the country is poor is that it's a bad education system.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

And so becoming the best in the world or retraining people at using AI, it doesn't seem like a particularly promising, particularly promising strategy for this country.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

This actually makes me hope even more so than before that the labs do get commoditized or at the very least they go public as soon as possible, but hopefully they just get totally commoditized because

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

I think AI will be much more popular and, more importantly, will be much more likely to lead to broad increases in prosperity if the gains are just not particularly – it is as hard to capture the gains of AI as it is to capture the gains of electrification.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

I mean, electricity doesn't take your job, but... Well, it takes some people's jobs.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.