Alex Kirshner

And their coach, Jamie Chadwell, is the guy who used to be your stock example, Godfrey, of a ball coach who would do what he had.

We got to take that gimmick out the back and shoot it.

Yeah, it doesn't really work anymore.

But I mean, I'm shocked by Liberty.

Liberty was probably not true talent-wise, a 4-8 team.

They had three overtime losses in a row at one point.

Maybe they're a 6-6 if you replay that season a bunch of times, but that's still really bad.

Very interesting.

I do think there's more separation here, though, in the MAAC.

Like, I would feel pretty comfortable guessing that... I mean, guessing and comfortable is doing a lot of work.

The next year's champ would be someone in the Liberty, Western Kentucky, Kennesaw, Delaware, Jacksonville State group.

That's five teams.

Okay.

It feels a little bit less open than the MAAC, where, I mean, God, you really have no idea.

Right.

In the Sun Belt, this league won by James Madison over Troy.

Richard and I both had James Madison, so we actually got one here.

not, not too impressive.

James Madison has been very solid, but Godfrey, you went off the board here.

Yeah, it was.