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Alex Kotlowitz

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
146 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

This American Life
318: With Great Power

She had to move back home with her parents, where she spent most of her time going over and over trial transcripts and police reports.

This American Life
318: With Great Power

She gave up the idea of ever having children.

This American Life
318: With Great Power

So you gave that up as well?

This American Life
318: With Great Power

And in the years Larry was in prison, he struggled to sustain himself too.

This American Life
318: With Great Power

One of the ways he did that was to build these meticulously constructed Western scenes out of toothpicks.

This American Life
318: With Great Power

Log cabins, churches, saloons, covered bridges.

This American Life
318: With Great Power

He trimmed the toothpicks, sometimes 2,500 of them for one model, with a nail clipper so that they fit together with glue like cut logs.

This American Life
318: With Great Power

The hours upon hours spent constructing them helped keep his mind off his case.

This American Life
318: With Great Power

Larry and Melody believed there had to be someone out there with some knowledge about what happened that night.

This American Life
318: With Great Power

And so Melody, along with Larry's sister, searched and searched and searched.

This American Life
318: With Great Power

Of course, the person they were looking for was Carla, but they didn't know she even existed.

This American Life
318: With Great Power

And Carla was completely unaware of them as well.

This American Life
318: With Great Power

In the 26 years since Christy Ringler's death, Carla had gotten divorced and remarried to a college professor.

This American Life
318: With Great Power

She now lived a comfortable life outside Grand Rapids in a spacious A-frame home on five acres of land.

This American Life
318: With Great Power

Her father had died in 1999, and all she could think about afterwards was he'd gotten away with it completely, and that tore at her.

This American Life
318: With Great Power

And then one day in January of last year, she picked up a newspaper and read for the very first time about Larry Souter.

This American Life
318: With Great Power

Melody, Larry's wife, had convinced John Smetanka, a former prosecutor, to take Larry's case.

This American Life
318: With Great Power

A medical examiner who had testified at Larry's trial now believed it was unlikely Ringler's wounds were caused by a whiskey bottle.

This American Life
318: With Great Power

At that moment, it hit Carla.