Alex Marlow

I have not had a chance. to see the clips because I was doing another hit that I had pre-scheduled. So sorry to leave you guys for a little bit. But I'm on the MSNBC homepage right now and it's Trump and Vance berate Ukraine Zelensky in ugly Oval Office media, ugly Oval Office meetings.

I have not had a chance. to see the clips because I was doing another hit that I had pre-scheduled. So sorry to leave you guys for a little bit. But I'm on the MSNBC homepage right now and it's Trump and Vance berate Ukraine Zelensky in ugly Oval Office media, ugly Oval Office meetings.

So it's exactly what I predicted an hour ago, Blake, to you, which is that the media was going to try to spin this as Zelensky's the victim. And so I don't think all of them are going to be able to stick with this because it did look so bad. And the points that

So it's exactly what I predicted an hour ago, Blake, to you, which is that the media was going to try to spin this as Zelensky's the victim. And so I don't think all of them are going to be able to stick with this because it did look so bad. And the points that

particularly Vance was making were so salient and so resonant that Trump is not getting enough credit for all the good that he's done for Ukraine over the years. And I think that once people realize that that's what was going on and Zelensky was being ungrateful, they're not going to be able to hang on to this, I don't think, for too long. But you knew they were going to try. They have to try.

particularly Vance was making were so salient and so resonant that Trump is not getting enough credit for all the good that he's done for Ukraine over the years. And I think that once people realize that that's what was going on and Zelensky was being ungrateful, they're not going to be able to hang on to this, I don't think, for too long. But you knew they were going to try. They have to try.

Because remember, everything Trump does is bad and everything Zelensky does is good in the eyes of our press.

Because remember, everything Trump does is bad and everything Zelensky does is good in the eyes of our press.

Yeah, that's how Trump is playing it. But who knows now, because this was so surprising that Zelensky, who you would think would be a pro by now, I know he was a comedian, but he's been president. He was president of his country for four years, and then he's been a dictator of his country for the last year. I say that only partially trolling.

Yeah, that's how Trump is playing it. But who knows now, because this was so surprising that Zelensky, who you would think would be a pro by now, I know he was a comedian, but he's been president. He was president of his country for four years, and then he's been a dictator of his country for the last year. I say that only partially trolling.

He certainly has canceled elections and has a lot of the hallmarks of a dictator. And so he should be able to handle himself in these scenarios. And He couldn't. He just completely, completely messed up here. And so he does need a full mea maxima culpa and he needs to then sign the mineral deal.

He certainly has canceled elections and has a lot of the hallmarks of a dictator. And so he should be able to handle himself in these scenarios. And He couldn't. He just completely, completely messed up here. And so he does need a full mea maxima culpa and he needs to then sign the mineral deal.

But that's why I wondered in the last hour with you guys whether or not the mineral deal is even a real thing. Like maybe there's something else going on that we're not seeing that we can't see quite yet that maybe we'll come out later.

But that's why I wondered in the last hour with you guys whether or not the mineral deal is even a real thing. Like maybe there's something else going on that we're not seeing that we can't see quite yet that maybe we'll come out later.

But if this really was just Zelensky freaking out and not handling himself like a, like a diplomatic leader trying to lead a massively consequential negotiation, then he's just got to try to take a mulligan, just say, I'm sorry, let's sign the deal and let's move on. But can he do that? Is he capable of doing that when all he wants to do is be Putin? I don't know.

But if this really was just Zelensky freaking out and not handling himself like a, like a diplomatic leader trying to lead a massively consequential negotiation, then he's just got to try to take a mulligan, just say, I'm sorry, let's sign the deal and let's move on. But can he do that? Is he capable of doing that when all he wants to do is be Putin? I don't know.

And I meant he sort of picked with- He's going to lose land, particularly the stuff that Putin took under Obama. And the gravy train is going to slow down. Knowing America is not going to completely stop, because unfortunately we keep sending money overseas at insane levels, but it's not going to be what it was.

And I meant he sort of picked with- He's going to lose land, particularly the stuff that Putin took under Obama. And the gravy train is going to slow down. Knowing America is not going to completely stop, because unfortunately we keep sending money overseas at insane levels, but it's not going to be what it was.

And there's going to be more accountability for everything that does get sent going forward. And so he's not really looking forward to this, is that he's choosing between bad options. And I don't think he likes the current slate of bad options that Trump has presented him, which is partially why he freaked out.

And there's going to be more accountability for everything that does get sent going forward. And so he's not really looking forward to this, is that he's choosing between bad options. And I don't think he likes the current slate of bad options that Trump has presented him, which is partially why he freaked out.