Alex Osola

The White House didn't immediately reply to a request for comment on the discussions.

And Honduras' attorney general has asked global police organization Interpol to arrest the country's former president on corruption charges.

The former president, Juan Orlando Hernandez, was released from a U.S.

prison last week after a pardon from President Trump.

Hernandez was serving a 45-year sentence for a drug trafficking conviction.

It's a question that has been on a lot of people's minds.

How are U.S.

consumers doing these days?

There are the usual places to look, like credit card spending and debt levels.

But increasingly, that's only showing part of the picture, because a growing amount of consumer lending is shifting to less visible parts of the financial system, like private credit.

For more on the rise of private credit and what it means for our picture of the U.S.

economy, I'm joined now by Telus Demos, writer for Heard on the Street and co-host of the WSJ's Take on the Week podcast.

Telus, what kinds of loans are included in this umbrella of private credit?

What makes you think we're not seeing the full picture of consumer health?

Is there a risk involved in not having as complete a picture as possible about consumer health?

That was WSJ Heard on the Street writer and co-host of WSJ's Take on the Week podcast, Talis Demos.

Thanks, Talis.

Thanks, Alex.

And that's what's news for this Tuesday afternoon.

Today's show was produced by Pierre Bien-Aimé with supervising producer Tali Arbel.