Alex Petkus

The elite is not only fabulously rich and abusing their power, they're also kind of incompetent. You really see this in the generation of Gaius Marius after that, that they're not as good as they say they are or they think they are. They don't deserve this authority. That's definitely a narrative that starts to crop up in the early or the later years of the second century, 110, 115 BC.

The elite is not only fabulously rich and abusing their power, they're also kind of incompetent. You really see this in the generation of Gaius Marius after that, that they're not as good as they say they are or they think they are. They don't deserve this authority. That's definitely a narrative that starts to crop up in the early or the later years of the second century, 110, 115 BC.

So I think that... Within another 20 years after that, in the 80s BC, they're fighting a proper civil war, which isn't really about principles so much as the American Civil War was, but was kind of like factions within the oligarchy, populists and the... the aristocrats warring against each other.

So I think that... Within another 20 years after that, in the 80s BC, they're fighting a proper civil war, which isn't really about principles so much as the American Civil War was, but was kind of like factions within the oligarchy, populists and the... the aristocrats warring against each other.

But, you know, all that to say is if we're there, we've got a lot more troubles ahead and a chance to really turn things around. I don't think it was necessarily determined that the Romans would have to have all of those civil wars and a, you know, a monarchy eventually capping it off.

But, you know, all that to say is if we're there, we've got a lot more troubles ahead and a chance to really turn things around. I don't think it was necessarily determined that the Romans would have to have all of those civil wars and a, you know, a monarchy eventually capping it off.

Um, and maybe there's some solutions that, that we can come up with, but, um, I think that we can learn from the, you know, the, the problems that they had for sure. Uh, and coming up with our own until next time.

Um, and maybe there's some solutions that, that we can come up with, but, um, I think that we can learn from the, you know, the, the problems that they had for sure. Uh, and coming up with our own until next time.