Alex Rae

And for me, it's a stonewall penalty.

And as I said earlier on in the show, I feel as if that will probably cost the referee and the VAR team any future chance of featuring in this World Cup going forward because there will be a cut process.

And I think when they look back at that, there'll be a clear kind of hands up that they made a mistake.

I would I would be very disappointed if we didn't get that very disappointed see for me that comes under the kind of stone wall category see when the defender comes in to win the ball and McGinn's pushed it past him because he's going to win the ball he doesn't get the ball and he catches McGinn and there's that coming together but

McGinn's on, he's on the march to go and get the ball and the defender just wipes him out.

All day long, David.

No, listen, I think the tangible signs are that you've gone to three tournaments.

I think, obviously, the two Euros were disappointing.

We've obviously got a win for the first time in 36 years, is that what they said earlier on?

Yeah, so that's a win under our belt.

We've run a very good team close tonight, all being, I didn't think we'd done enough to get in other than the penalty.

I didn't think we created enough goal-mouth actions.

But it's very difficult when you're up against a team that are seventh in the world rankings.

And for me, it's very difficult.

I wouldn't say we have a top... I mean this with the greatest respect.

We have some really good, wonderful midfielders who play at a very good level.

McTominay's over 1CRA last year.

McGinn's won the Europa League.

league this year but I don't see us as having a top class striker and sometimes that can be the difference you know even you look at Wales over the years you have Gareth Bale who's like elite level and he can take you to levels that you can't normally do and I mean with the greatest respect like decent players but then you need that elite player at the top end So you're not feeling too positive about our chances of getting through progressing David?

That's an interesting point that David makes there, Andrew, as he's actually made a point as we're not progressing as a nation, yet we're qualifying for three tournaments.