Alex Speers

From what I've heard recently is that it's going to be tough at this moment for them

To get the kind of assets or return they want with Kobe, which has been their problem historically, not recouping what they need for assets or taking too long to move an asset.

If you want a first, a good first for Kobe White,

Is the market there right now?

And for what it's worth, I think people are waiting on that first domino of this trade deadline to fall to understand how they're going to react and how they're going to move.

But I know the discussions have been had on Kobe.

I expect them to...

probably move at least a couple guys but but not for the sake of like i don't think it will resemble like a rebuild i mean ak hates that word which is funny because sam presti only hated the word tank i don't think sam presti ever avoided the word rebuild ak hates the word rebuild like he despises that and so like there's just a competitive baseline in the building to where

Up to this point, I mean, I think crazy enough, I think I saw this last night.

Through the last five years, I think they're perfectly at 500 now, let alone this season where they're 22 and 22.

There's just a certain competitive fiber in the building that will...

not allowed him to reach for a tank or rebuild.

But I think the eyes, there have been eyes, I think, opening up to what this is and the direction it's trending and what's realistic, man.

But that being said, like,

Billy Donovan, he kind of makes me feel like it's like Moneyball, right?

Where Brad Pitt had to trade assets from underneath the manager to keep him from trying to win games.

Billy Donovan is that manager, bro.

He is trying to make Trey Jones and Kevin Herter...

The guys who are going to win them games.

And it's just been crazy to unfold.