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Alex Turnbull

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375 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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Plain English with Derek Thompson
Is China the Winner of the Iran War?

Um, but then there's an enormous range of other, especially petrochemicals that come from Korean refineries, which might not have crude to run in a month, uh, and, or Singapore for that matter.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Is China the Winner of the Iran War?

And there is a real risk that not just on the power demand constraints, but also on the inputs, we are going to have some serious issues.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Is China the Winner of the Iran War?

What's interesting about this war is it started during a quiet period before earnings, when a lot of companies can't tell investors what their exposures are.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Is China the Winner of the Iran War?

But if you talk to unlisted midstream chemical distributors, this is starting to become very tense.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Is China the Winner of the Iran War?

And it will become extraordinarily tense over the next couple of weeks.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Is China the Winner of the Iran War?

So we've seen a force majeure at Formosa Petrochemicals in Taiwan.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Is China the Winner of the Iran War?

I have no doubt there are going to be more and more of them over time.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Is China the Winner of the Iran War?

And so this will cause constraints in chip production.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Is China the Winner of the Iran War?

It won't be the whole sector will come to a halt at once, but it will start to impact lower value things.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Is China the Winner of the Iran War?

Then it will eventually start to bleed through to the really high value important stuff, NVIDIA and so forth, the longer this goes on.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Is China the Winner of the Iran War?

So it's not that this is going to be very consequential.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Is China the Winner of the Iran War?

And even if you install, even if you can produce the Nvidia chips, if they require certain power electronics or other cheaper stuff to construct the rack to go in a data center and you can't get the cheap stuff, then you can't put it in the data center.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Is China the Winner of the Iran War?

And this could very seriously slow US data center expansion and AI development at the same time as China is probably going to source helium from Russia and will not have any of these material constraints because they have all their supply of oil and a lot of domestic petrochemical production.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
Is China the Winner of the Iran War?

So that's also not helpful.

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