Alex Turnbull

looks like they're going to get a toll out of it.

So what is the takeaway from how to deal with the US going forward?

But similarly with China, I mean, they've been very aggressively coercive on material supply chains with technology.

So I think this kind of idea that as a mid-sized power, you should be thinking that you need a pimp to keep you safe on the streets.

I mean, actually all the pimps are bad.

We need more Pam Bria.

Cool, thank you.

Bye-bye.

Well, to most Americans, they're random dots on the part of the globe they don't really look at.

understandable However, they are places where if for example China were to establish a permanent military presence.

It would severely undermine the US's ability to Do much in Taiwan with regards to Taiwan or other countries in the Pacific which are a high priority and so

if these islands cannot get diesel and they run on diesel for their power, for their transport, because there's a lot of its shipping, then they can potentially collapse.

And they will face the choice of either collapse or sourcing diesel from, say, China, and China will have an ask there.

And if China were to ask them, hey guys, I'd like to build a deep water port and put some stuff there, just don't ask too many questions about it, they're probably going to say yes, at the point at which they're facing complete economic collapse.

And that would severely undermine the US's ability to project power, to defend its allies, to secure a supply of critical inputs from countries like Korea, Taiwan, and others.

So they look like small dots on a map, but they absolutely matter if they go to the other side and things get hot.

Already quite acute.

There is an overall shortage in Asia.

These are not the wealthiest places in the world.

So we're...