Alex Volkanovski

And he's the guy, you think about some of his acts of sheer desperation at critical stages of the game, where he's just throwing himself on a boot and that type of thing.

I think leadership, you don't necessarily have to be the most popular player in the team, but I think he's that as well.

I think he's probably, if you were to vox pop all the players there at Fremantle, I think they'd have him very high up on the list of the most popular players in that team.

Harris Andrews, was he a consideration?

He was a consideration.

He was sort of on the next, he was on sort of like the next rung of captains.

I don't know that he's had as great a year this year as what he's had in the past in terms of his own playing performance either.

No, he missed three weeks with suspension, which doesn't help from a leadership point of view.

And he also had a few injuries, niggles as well.

And Toby too, like he was on that next lead.

I don't think – Cal Wilkie?

He was a consideration too.

Yeah, no, he was up there.

I don't know whether you'd have him – I don't know whether you'd replace any of those five.

And you could.

You could argue the toss on that.

But I don't know that you could replace any of those five with Cal Wilkie, no.

Righto.

Yeah, okay, I've got to take a break.

Are you ready to go with the Volk?