Alex Wagner

I mean, I think that this is the ace in the hole.

Oh, you, you, you GOP, you want to get rid of the division between church and state?

Well, how about Pope for president, snitches?

Let's go.

He's like an amazing Pope.

I mean, Chicago, run it back.

Why not?

I think...

The minute Leo was, the smoke came out, it was black smoke, right?

Black smoke when they chose the Pope.

I think it's white smoke.

Right, it's black smoke when they haven't chosen, sorry.

I'm a bad lapsed Catholic, quite obviously.

This is the kind of stuff we need more of.

We talk about institutions, religious institutions are just as important in this fight as media institutions and legal institutions and the court system, like all hands on deck.

And this pope is clearly a deeply ethical person.

He has an incredible pulpit, quite literally, to speak from.

And I think it's really important.

It reframes issues that should matter to all Americans outside of partisan lens.

And I think that's essential, especially the conversation around immigration.