Alex Wagner

You don't get to do this.

You don't get to just torture people as a partisan mechanism.

And I just think it's...

To see the glee, even in that Mike Lee clip, the joy, right?

It's so, it's so, it's so cruel.

It's so dark.

It's so fucked up.

And like, it shouldn't be, it just, I mean, I just, I, I marinate in, in, in, in, in just the sort of precedent that sets and the sort of the, the, the new age of this Republican party.

I mean, I have second thoughts about the strategy all the time.

And at the same time, I think it was the only strategy that could have been pursued.

You know, I just think...

I have a real aversion to business as usual because nothing here is normal.

And it could blow up in everyone's face.

But I do think you have to try and do something bold and different, something that sort of resets the conversation.

You know, it's risky.

I have no idea what Russvote is going to be able to do.

I think that you make a really important and astute point about how politically this could be costly on just a policy level and then a political level.

And you have to hold on to that in a moment like this.

We're just in terra incognito.

So like, yeah, I mean, maybe Chuck Schumer was right.