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Alex Wagner

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The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

So here's a German ambassador basically saying he's going to try to undo and remake the constitutional order. This is the cable that he sends back to Berlin. And I think that – That's the project here. Again, I don't think Donald Trump could articulate in those terms.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

But a new constitutional order that is around essentially a kind of personalist cult of personality around the president as the only figure with any authority in the constitutional order. Well, that's exciting. All right. Things are going great. Things are good. Life's good. But look, can I just say – Yeah, please. I don't think –

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

But a new constitutional order that is around essentially a kind of personalist cult of personality around the president as the only figure with any authority in the constitutional order. Well, that's exciting. All right. Things are going great. Things are good. Life's good. But look, can I just say – Yeah, please. I don't think –

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

But a new constitutional order that is around essentially a kind of personalist cult of personality around the president as the only figure with any authority in the constitutional order. Well, that's exciting. All right. Things are going great. Things are good. Life's good. But look, can I just say – Yeah, please. I don't think –

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

if people are listening to this and like getting bummed out, if I think public opinion matters a tremendous amount, I think like calling up representatives matters a huge amount, going to their offices, like calling your Senator, no Democrat should vote for Russ vote.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

if people are listening to this and like getting bummed out, if I think public opinion matters a tremendous amount, I think like calling up representatives matters a huge amount, going to their offices, like calling your Senator, no Democrat should vote for Russ vote.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

if people are listening to this and like getting bummed out, if I think public opinion matters a tremendous amount, I think like calling up representatives matters a huge amount, going to their offices, like calling your Senator, no Democrat should vote for Russ vote.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

And if you're in a state that has a Republican center, you should call them up to like public opinion still does matter and still should matter for some of these people. And right now there's this kind of, it's this weird period. I feel like between like,

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

And if you're in a state that has a Republican center, you should call them up to like public opinion still does matter and still should matter for some of these people. And right now there's this kind of, it's this weird period. I feel like between like,

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

And if you're in a state that has a Republican center, you should call them up to like public opinion still does matter and still should matter for some of these people. And right now there's this kind of, it's this weird period. I feel like between like,

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

the lightning and the thunder, where people haven't gotten their kind of wits about them, and they're trying this kind of blitzkrieg to mow everyone down. But public backlash isn't going to go away. I truly believe that. It's a question of whether it gets organized, formalized, and wielded in enough time to stop some of this damage.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

the lightning and the thunder, where people haven't gotten their kind of wits about them, and they're trying this kind of blitzkrieg to mow everyone down. But public backlash isn't going to go away. I truly believe that. It's a question of whether it gets organized, formalized, and wielded in enough time to stop some of this damage.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

the lightning and the thunder, where people haven't gotten their kind of wits about them, and they're trying this kind of blitzkrieg to mow everyone down. But public backlash isn't going to go away. I truly believe that. It's a question of whether it gets organized, formalized, and wielded in enough time to stop some of this damage.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

Yeah, I mean, the argument I make in the book is that, you know, we live in the attention age. Attention is the defining and most important resource of the age. And that in the public realm and in politics, Donald Trump has kind of intuited that more than any other figure.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

Yeah, I mean, the argument I make in the book is that, you know, we live in the attention age. Attention is the defining and most important resource of the age. And that in the public realm and in politics, Donald Trump has kind of intuited that more than any other figure.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

Yeah, I mean, the argument I make in the book is that, you know, we live in the attention age. Attention is the defining and most important resource of the age. And that in the public realm and in politics, Donald Trump has kind of intuited that more than any other figure.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

And the key insight there is that it's better to get lots of attention, dominated attention, even if a lot of it's negative attention. than to choose to not get attention so that you don't get people outraged at you. Right. This this tradeoff is the key. And again, the tradeoff has drawbacks. Like Donald Trump has had been upside down and underwater in favorability most of his political career.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

And the key insight there is that it's better to get lots of attention, dominated attention, even if a lot of it's negative attention. than to choose to not get attention so that you don't get people outraged at you. Right. This this tradeoff is the key. And again, the tradeoff has drawbacks. Like Donald Trump has had been upside down and underwater in favorability most of his political career.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

And the key insight there is that it's better to get lots of attention, dominated attention, even if a lot of it's negative attention. than to choose to not get attention so that you don't get people outraged at you. Right. This this tradeoff is the key. And again, the tradeoff has drawbacks. Like Donald Trump has had been upside down and underwater in favorability most of his political career.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

He barely pulled out this hat trick the first time he got elected. He lost the second time after being the incumbent, which is fairly rare. You know, he won this time, but it's not like this foolproof thing. magical quality that means he's like, you know, rolling up 1964, 1984, 1972, you know, FDR kind of margins. It's narrow, but it's effective. And I think Democrats operate in