Alex Wagner

Can I just say, it is so hard. It's so worth it. And I felt like we needed to do something different. Like Trump 2.0. Yeah. There are people doing great work at MSNBC HQ. I don't mean to diminish that at all. But I just felt like given my background doing the field reporting, it was like, dude, I just want to go out and understand what's happening to this country a little bit better.

Can I just say, it is so hard. It's so worth it. And I felt like we needed to do something different. Like Trump 2.0. Yeah. There are people doing great work at MSNBC HQ. I don't mean to diminish that at all. But I just felt like given my background doing the field reporting, it was like, dude, I just want to go out and understand what's happening to this country a little bit better.

Can I just say, it is so hard. It's so worth it. And I felt like we needed to do something different. Like Trump 2.0. Yeah. There are people doing great work at MSNBC HQ. I don't mean to diminish that at all. But I just felt like given my background doing the field reporting, it was like, dude, I just want to go out and understand what's happening to this country a little bit better.

And so in that way, it's been really worthwhile.

And so in that way, it's been really worthwhile.

And so in that way, it's been really worthwhile.

Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, I think just talking to the people who are at the center of all of this stuff, whether it's the January 6th families or Chris Rufo or migrants who are being targeted in raids and federal workers who are like, I don't know what I'm going to do tomorrow, whether I have a job or not. I think that it has cultivated a sense of, I always try and

Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, I think just talking to the people who are at the center of all of this stuff, whether it's the January 6th families or Chris Rufo or migrants who are being targeted in raids and federal workers who are like, I don't know what I'm going to do tomorrow, whether I have a job or not. I think that it has cultivated a sense of, I always try and

Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, I think just talking to the people who are at the center of all of this stuff, whether it's the January 6th families or Chris Rufo or migrants who are being targeted in raids and federal workers who are like, I don't know what I'm going to do tomorrow, whether I have a job or not. I think that it has cultivated a sense of, I always try and

work from an empathetic center, but I do think that I am... I feel the chaos and pain more acutely, and I think that that's good for all of us who can get, as consumers and journalists, who can get real desensitized to this. It's very abstract in a lot of ways, and it's ongoing. It's a fire hose of... you know, hell and so, and chaos.

work from an empathetic center, but I do think that I am... I feel the chaos and pain more acutely, and I think that that's good for all of us who can get, as consumers and journalists, who can get real desensitized to this. It's very abstract in a lot of ways, and it's ongoing. It's a fire hose of... you know, hell and so, and chaos.

work from an empathetic center, but I do think that I am... I feel the chaos and pain more acutely, and I think that that's good for all of us who can get, as consumers and journalists, who can get real desensitized to this. It's very abstract in a lot of ways, and it's ongoing. It's a fire hose of... you know, hell and so, and chaos.

And so this helps really distill, like, I think it's really important to hear individual stories and that's been like profoundly enlightening for me. But in terms of like, like a hot take that I wouldn't have had, um, I got to say, and I think it's probably more on the Trump side that I've had the revelation.

And so this helps really distill, like, I think it's really important to hear individual stories and that's been like profoundly enlightening for me. But in terms of like, like a hot take that I wouldn't have had, um, I got to say, and I think it's probably more on the Trump side that I've had the revelation.

And so this helps really distill, like, I think it's really important to hear individual stories and that's been like profoundly enlightening for me. But in terms of like, like a hot take that I wouldn't have had, um, I got to say, and I think it's probably more on the Trump side that I've had the revelation.

This guy, I think, has refashioned American politics and expectations that are set for presidents. I don't agree with almost a single thing he's ever done, let alone in this second term. But he has delivered in a huge way. And the people who believed him when they voted for him feel so vindicated.

This guy, I think, has refashioned American politics and expectations that are set for presidents. I don't agree with almost a single thing he's ever done, let alone in this second term. But he has delivered in a huge way. And the people who believed him when they voted for him feel so vindicated.

This guy, I think, has refashioned American politics and expectations that are set for presidents. I don't agree with almost a single thing he's ever done, let alone in this second term. But he has delivered in a huge way. And the people who believed him when they voted for him feel so vindicated.

And it is both a cautionary tale, but also for a Democrat who comes into office, the expectation I think can and should be, you better work your ass off ASAP. And I don't think that it should be in contravention of the law or in terms of shattering norms and institutions, but get her done. Trump is going ham. And his folks really believe in him, but even more so now than ever.

And it is both a cautionary tale, but also for a Democrat who comes into office, the expectation I think can and should be, you better work your ass off ASAP. And I don't think that it should be in contravention of the law or in terms of shattering norms and institutions, but get her done. Trump is going ham. And his folks really believe in him, but even more so now than ever.