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Alex Wagner

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1892 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

I think another part of it too, is just that I learned this lesson a little early on. I would say when I first started writing, like remember I first write a piece for the Chicago reader and, which was the weekly alternative paper in Chicago. And I remember going to get it. It would come out on Thursday afternoon. It would be in these piles in bar vestibules.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

And going and seeing my name there and feeling that, whatever that little thing about my personality, I felt good about that. And then it was like, that was kind of it. This was sort of pre-internet. It just was out there in the world. And one of the things that I realized was that like,

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

And going and seeing my name there and feeling that, whatever that little thing about my personality, I felt good about that. And then it was like, that was kind of it. This was sort of pre-internet. It just was out there in the world. And one of the things that I realized was that like,

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

And going and seeing my name there and feeling that, whatever that little thing about my personality, I felt good about that. And then it was like, that was kind of it. This was sort of pre-internet. It just was out there in the world. And one of the things that I realized was that like,

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

if I didn't actually like doing the work itself, that whatever little dopamine hit from that micro instant of seeing my name was not going to be enough.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

if I didn't actually like doing the work itself, that whatever little dopamine hit from that micro instant of seeing my name was not going to be enough.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

if I didn't actually like doing the work itself, that whatever little dopamine hit from that micro instant of seeing my name was not going to be enough.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

That's the other thing is that you have to just be satisfied with like the actual making of the thing you're making as a thing that you want to do and feel proud of and feels worthwhile and is satisfying to you because of the value of it is what stranger social attention gets put on it. It's never, ever, ever going to feel good enough.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

That's the other thing is that you have to just be satisfied with like the actual making of the thing you're making as a thing that you want to do and feel proud of and feels worthwhile and is satisfying to you because of the value of it is what stranger social attention gets put on it. It's never, ever, ever going to feel good enough.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

That's the other thing is that you have to just be satisfied with like the actual making of the thing you're making as a thing that you want to do and feel proud of and feels worthwhile and is satisfying to you because of the value of it is what stranger social attention gets put on it. It's never, ever, ever going to feel good enough.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

Yes. One small concrete thing to do is to spend 20 minutes for your thoughts every day, meaning some 20 minute period. Just me and my thoughts. Just you and your thoughts. Not the TV, not other people. No podcasts, no phone. Maybe that's a commute. Maybe that's a drive. For me, it's a walk every day without listening to anything.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

Yes. One small concrete thing to do is to spend 20 minutes for your thoughts every day, meaning some 20 minute period. Just me and my thoughts. Just you and your thoughts. Not the TV, not other people. No podcasts, no phone. Maybe that's a commute. Maybe that's a drive. For me, it's a walk every day without listening to anything.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

Yes. One small concrete thing to do is to spend 20 minutes for your thoughts every day, meaning some 20 minute period. Just me and my thoughts. Just you and your thoughts. Not the TV, not other people. No podcasts, no phone. Maybe that's a commute. Maybe that's a drive. For me, it's a walk every day without listening to anything.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

We have gotten out of the habit of living with our own thoughts, but that's who you got to live with the rest of your life. And so if you're constantly seeking diversion so you don't have to do that, you're going to have a harder and harder time when you do have to be alone with your own thoughts.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

We have gotten out of the habit of living with our own thoughts, but that's who you got to live with the rest of your life. And so if you're constantly seeking diversion so you don't have to do that, you're going to have a harder and harder time when you do have to be alone with your own thoughts.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

We have gotten out of the habit of living with our own thoughts, but that's who you got to live with the rest of your life. And so if you're constantly seeking diversion so you don't have to do that, you're going to have a harder and harder time when you do have to be alone with your own thoughts.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

How does that sound? It sounds great. Yeah, and it's pretty astonishing. I definitely spent a good part of Friday and then through the weekend just reading as much as I could about this because it is one of those moments in tech where you see happen and you don't really believe it's real until... You get confirmation. We do have confirmation that this is real.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

How does that sound? It sounds great. Yeah, and it's pretty astonishing. I definitely spent a good part of Friday and then through the weekend just reading as much as I could about this because it is one of those moments in tech where you see happen and you don't really believe it's real until... You get confirmation. We do have confirmation that this is real.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

How does that sound? It sounds great. Yeah, and it's pretty astonishing. I definitely spent a good part of Friday and then through the weekend just reading as much as I could about this because it is one of those moments in tech where you see happen and you don't really believe it's real until... You get confirmation. We do have confirmation that this is real.

The Bulwark Podcast
Chris Hayes and Alex Kantrowitz: Trying To Break the Whole Thing

So basically what this team in China has done is they have made an architectural breakthrough. And I'm going to try to explain this in plain English in the development of AI models. So basically the way that Silicon Valley has been approaching the development of AI models to date.