Alex Wissner-Gross

And personally, I'm much more excited about that second layer than the first.

Yes, I've said that twice.

Forward deployed engineers for everyone.

That's right.

I think I agree with Sam broadly on this.

So just a refresher, UBI, universal basic income, UBE, universal basic equity, UBC, universal basic compute, UBS, universal basic services.

I tend to think that UBI, which is sort of in some sense a demand side stimulus to the economy.

Stimmy checks.

Stimmy checks.

I tend to think that that doesn't necessarily lead to the best long-term alignment between the recipients of the STEMI checks and the society overall.

I tend to think, so Peter, you and I argued in favor in our book, Solve Everything for UBC, Universal Basic Compute.

I'm a huge fan.

of UBS, Universal Basic Services, I'd much rather see the cost of everything, including healthcare, go down to near zero, and that's how we achieve truly universal healthcare, rather than just dishing out STEMI checks to everyone.

dishing out STEMI checks doesn't actually incentivize technological innovation necessarily.

Whereas, if we had, say, bounties for driving the cost of constant quality healthcare down to near zero, that is a massive incentive.

In some sense, more of a deflationary rather than a hyperinflationary incentive to the market.

So, on balance, yes, I agree with Sam.

I'd vastly, if I had to choose, I would prefer either UBC, UBE, or UBS to UBI.

Don't you think, Peter, that's already happening though?

Like just look at universal basic compute.