Alexander Vaults

And if you look back at the recent referendum that we've just had, I think the Australian people like their detail, and I don't think they like being treated as easily led or easily deceived by vague appeals and weaponisations of compassion.

And I think that a lot of people don't quite understand

understand that monarchists are not arguing anything in this debate.

We are merely reactionary to the calls for change.

We don't have to defend monarchy.

History defends monarchy.

I wait eagerly to engage with the Republicans at a sort of an erudite level, and I'm a big fan of just talking about this and having the conversation.

So again, thank you for having me on the show because we need to do more of this.

I think generally speaking, the history of every nation state on the planet is one of conquest and reconquest at the expense of one community and to the advantage of another.

I don't think we can escape that

And it seems to me a sort of disingenuous argument to put forward, because at the end of the day, the Constitution is not a history book.

It's a technical legal document that sets out the governing framework of our nation.

That's all it should be.

And I'd like to hear the Republicans tell us how becoming a republic would provide Australians with an economic advantage, for instance.

And all the data I've looked at suggests that a republic doesn't advantage the economy.

And all the data I've looked at suggests that a republic doesn't advantage the geopolitical relations or even culture in a sense.

And this is the last thing I would say.

Any attempt to paint this change as a simple change is very disingenuous.

This is complicated.

There's a reason republicans amongst themselves can't agree on what to do, and they can't.