Alexandr (Alex) Wang

Yeah, that's true.

That would be, that's something like one way to think about it, which is like, yeah, it's all this big simulation that's running.

And as soon as like, you know, you get, you get kind of like downloaded or like taken off or like decommissioned from, you know, one entity, you get like, you know, uploaded to another entity kind of thing.

It's kind of that, that's plausible.

I think there's another world where like consciousness is like, is like,

consciousness may not like be that big a deal so to speak like it could be the case that you know i definitely as as the models have gotten better and better as the ai models have gotten better and better um you look at them and uh you know you definitely wonder if at some point you're just gonna have models that are properly conscious and it may just be the fact that like you know

it's something that can be engineered.

And if it's something that can be engineered, then all bets are off, I think.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I think...

few thoughts there um in some ways yes in some ways no so uh ai is definitely the next um some ways in which it's it is the next oil ai will fundamentally be the lifeblood of any future economy any future military any future government like if you play it out

the degree to which a country or economy is able to utilize AI to make its economy more efficient, to automate parts of its economy, to do automated research and development, automated R&D, push forward in science using AI, all that stuff is going to mean that countries that adopt AI effectively will have like, you know,

nearly infinite GDP growth and countries that don't adopt it are going to get left behind.

So it is

It is sort of the fuel that will power the future of every country.

And by the way, I think the same is true of hard power.

If you look at what the militaries of the future are going to be like or what war looks like in the future, AI is at the core of what that is going to look like.

I'm sure we'll get into that.

And then the ways that it's not like oil is, you know, oil is this finite resource.