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Alexandr (Alex) Wang

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1582 total appearances

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Um, there's a lot of good shit going on constantly, but perfection is not really a like plausible objective.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Like we're never going to get perfection.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Um, so I'm a lot more pragmatic now, but I do see a lot of beauty and perfection.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Yeah, at some point, some bit flipped, and I realized you got to just do the 80-20 lots of times.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

You got to do 20% of the effort, this 80% is good, and you just have to be okay with that.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And you just have to do that over and over and over again.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

So at some point, I internalized that, and it's like anathema to perfectionism.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

It's the exact opposite.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And so now I think about it as like, hey, there's some things where perfectionism really is the right answer.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And there's some things where you just got to, you just got to like be okay with imperfection and just like speed is the objective versus perfection is the objective.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

So, and yeah, I would say now, honestly, I think more things, like most things are speed is the objective, not perfection.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

So yeah, I would say I've kind of had like a whole journey with it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

What was it that flipped you?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

I think what, like, so there's this thing that Elon says to people at his company when they're in, like, when they're, like, a crisis situation.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And he says, like, hey, like, you know, let's say you're in a crisis situation and, like, people are, like, not figuring out how to deal with it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And then he asks, like, imagine there was a bomb strapped to your body

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

that will go off if you don't come up with a solution to this problem.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Then what are you going to do?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And then most of the time when people actually think through that scenario, they focus and they get their act together and figure out something to do.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And I think a lot of times startups