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Alexandr (Alex) Wang

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

I think that you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who doesn't believe that AI will be this world-changing technology.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Now, exactly how it'll change the world, I think that's where it gets fuzzier, but it will be world-changing technology.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

But the issue is like, I mean, the political system just doesn't respond very quickly, right?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And that's going to be very harmful.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

I mean, we need to be able to respond very quickly to these new technologies.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And so, uh, I, and I think they'll become more and more obvious.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Like I think, I think as AI and other technologies accelerate, it'll be very obvious that like the world will just change so quickly.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And frankly, I think voters are going to demand faster action.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Um, and I, so I think, I think our government is set up to, um, to accelerate, but, um,

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

But that's when he's happened.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Yeah, I mean, first of all, if you take a graph of...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

chinese total china's total power capacity over the past 20 years versus u.s total power capacity for the past 20 years the china graph is like straight up into the right they're just adding crazy amounts of power they've doubled it in the last decade i think double doubled it doubled their power capacity in the last decade um and uh the united states is basically flat

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Um, it's grown like a little bit.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Uh, and so we're like that, that's, what's happening right now, right now, China's doubling every decade or so.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Um, us is, is, is basically flat and we're looking at, you know, the fort to just power the data centers that, that today AI companies know they want to build.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

We're going to need something like a doubling of our energy capacity

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

and that needs to happen very very quickly like almost you know that has to happen almost immediately um and so you have to believe that our graph is going to go from totally flat to vertical faster vertical than than china's energy um uh growth and china in the meantime is just is growing is is growing perfectly quickly they'll accelerate they'll add more power to their grid like i think it's very hard to imagine

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

realistic scenarios where without drastic action the united states is able to grow its energy capacity faster than china um now where are we on the so if china's going straight up and we're flatlined i mean does that mean are you saying that china has surpassed our power capabilities or are we still above them even though they're on the rise uh they're definitely above us because they have a bigger population and they have way more industrials uh so they have uh

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

I'll double check.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

They definitely have more power total than us, more power generation capabilities.