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Alexandr (Alex) Wang

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

That's like, I mean, we were talking a little bit about like automated factories and automated industrials, like they're racing in that faster than any other country in the world.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And so I think that like, you can look at all these dimensions and this window, you know, there's, if they're gonna do it, they're gonna do it soon.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

I mean, 95% of the high-end chips are manufactured in Taiwan.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And so what happens if China takes Taiwan?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

So, yeah, we're gaming out.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

So we were talking a little bit about this.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

So let's say China blockades or invades Taiwan, then...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

So these fabs are incredibly, incredibly valuable because as we were just describing, if you believe in the pace of AI progress and AI technology, then everything boils down to how much power you got, how many chips you've got.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And if they own 95% of the world's chip manufacturing capability, I mean, they're going to run away with it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

So then you look at that and you say,

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Will the Taiwanese people bomb the TSMC data centers?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And or will the US bomb the TSMC data centers?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And or will some other country bomb the data centers?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Or sorry, not the data, the fabs, the TSMC chip fabs?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

I think my personal belief, I don't think the Taiwanese do it because even if they get blockaded or invaded, those FAPs are still a huge component of Taiwan's survivability and Taiwan's relevance as an entity, even if they get blockaded or invaded by Taiwan.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

So I don't think they do it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

China definitely doesn't do it because they

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

are invading partially to gain those capabilities.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And so then does the US bomb them?