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Alexandr (Alex) Wang

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1582 total appearances

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

If their calculus becomes

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

oh, no, this is going to work out.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

We can take this and then, you know, we're strong enough so it'll work out for us.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And then our calculus is the opposite.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

That's where the World War scenario happens.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

So I think it's possible to deter.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And I think we have to, you know, there's a lot of things we have to do to make sure that we deter that conflict.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And that should be, I mean, certainly, I think it already is like 80% of the focus of the entire DoD.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Yeah, I mean, I think that if they assess, if the CCP and the PLA assess that Taiwan is all they're at, like they will focus their entire military capacity on seizing Taiwan, then that becomes a really...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

That becomes a really tricky calculus.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And then they win the AI race.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Yeah, the only thing that we can do...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

think this is a long shot but i think it's important is if um if ultimately we actually end up collaborating on ai and i know that sounds kind of crazy but um but if we're able as a country to demonstrate just we're so far ahead

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And there's like... One key element of how the whole AI thing plays out is this idea of AI self-improvement or intelligence recursion, sometimes people call it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

But basically...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Once AIs get sufficiently good, then you can start utilizing the AIs to help you build the next AI.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

As sci-fi as that sounds, you utilize your current generation AI to build the next generation AI faster and faster and faster and faster.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And so at some point,

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

your AI capabilities enable you, like, you know, there's some form of like, you know, just exponential takeoff.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

They just, you know, your AI capabilities get good really, really quickly.