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Alexandr (Alex) Wang

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1582 total appearances

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

There's a lot of technical talent in Europe as well.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

I think it's unclear exactly how this plays out with the European capabilities.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

I mean, they have to... It seems like there's some efforts now for Europe to try to...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

build up large scale power, build up large data centers, you know, make a play.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

I think yet to be seen how effective those efforts are going to be, but you can clearly see some scenarios where if they make a hard turn and go all in, they could be relevant as well.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

You know, obviously you can hypothetically paint the scenario where, like, you know, you have super intelligence or you have really powerful AI and then, you know, it realizes at some point that humans are kind of annoying and takes us all out.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

But I think it's a very, like, that's so preventable as an outcome.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Because, first of all, all the things we just talked about are, like,

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

the very real things that happen long before you have, you know, this hyper advanced AI that takes everyone out.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

That's first, that's first thing.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

So we have lots of things we have to get right before then.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And then second is, you know, for AI to actually be capable of, you know, having a mind of its own and taking all humans out, like we'd have to give it just incredible amounts of control.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Like it would have to just,

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

basically be running everything and we're just sort of like along for the ride.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And that's a choice.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

We have this choice of whether or not to like give all of our control to AI systems.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And as I was talking about before with like human sovereignty,

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

My belief is we should not cede control of our most critical systems.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

We should design all the systems such that human decision-making, human control is really, really important.