Alexandra Jacobs

They carry themselves as standard bearers for certain American values.

They seem to embody a time of America, rightly or wrongly, where there was sort of a sense of promise and expansion and dream, American dream.

I think they, for years, they embodied a realization of the American dream, which is that you could come from an ethnic group that was frowned upon and

Marginalized.

Yeah, marginalized, exactly.

And achieve the highest office of the land and sort of like the ultimate glamour and success, business success, romantic success.

Well, yes, also having tragic elements that give it that Shakespearean quality.

Well, also, don't forget they were running in parallel with the development of the media, of which this show is only the latest iteration.

So you have, you know, Joe Kennedy's exploits were covered in newspapers.

And Jacqueline Bouvier met John Kennedy when she was a photographer.

And then when he's shot, when John Kennedy is shot, there's the Zapruder film and it's covered on television.

You know, then you get to this generation we're talking about, and you have print magazines and tabloid television and tabloid newspapers, and now you've got the internet.

So, you know, the Kennedys of today are creatures of the internet and of social media, like RFK Jr., Jack Schlossberg.

When we're watching the Ryan Murphy show, we are looking at a couple that was very much a creature of, they were creatures of glossy magazines.

I think it gave the show's creators...

a feeling of license to create a character.

And this character is elusive, ambivalent, private, did I say ambitious already?

What a novelty, you know?

It's so rare to find... Everyone's oversharing now.

You have to conscientiously object to not...