Alexi Horowitz-Ghazi

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Just as every market has its first movers, every religion has its martyrs.

The people willing to risk everything for what they believe.

You know, Joan of Arc, Joseph Smith, Jesus.

And when I recently found out about a church with a leader who might be a little bit of both, I knew I had to make a pilgrimage.

So I hopped on a plane to Oakland, California to visit a place called the Zyde Door Church.

Hey.

You looking for Zyde Door?

I'm looking for Zyde Door.

Is this it?

Oh, this is Zyde Door.

From the street, you might not even know the church was there.

It's sort of hidden inside a nondescript warehouse surrounded by auto shops and row houses.

As soon as you walk in, you're greeted by a friendly armed security guard and ushered through a metal detector.

You won't find any pews inside of Zyde Door these days, but there are two ATMs on the premises.

And it's next to one of them where I meet the man who founded and runs the church, a guy named Dave Hodges.

Hey, Pastor Dave, I presume.