Alfonso De La Nuez

I can't comment, though.

Yeah, some of it was, but I can't comment on the details.

Yeah, so I can't comment on the very details, but I can tell you that between the management team, there's plenty of equity there still to really be a home run here.

I mean, the two founders, for instance, together, almost 10%.

We have a couple...

I mean, there's plenty out there still.

And, you know, I mean, with the right valuation, we could all make some good money.

No, no, I'm one of the founders.

Okay, I thought so.

The other co-CEO that I have with me, Dan Fischbach, he is not a founder.

He came in later.

He came in in 2015 together with an investor with a private equity firm.

Private equities, sometimes they use this model.

Some use this model, right?

Where some first-time CEO like myself are provided someone to help them.

And in this case, we gave Dan quite a bit of stock to help with this.

And it's worked out really well because he's brought a ton of value to the business.

No, no.

Sunstone went from a majority to a minority, but they still are actually the biggest shareholder.

The management, yeah, the two investors together own close to about 65%.