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Ali Abdaal

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The Jordan Harbinger Show
1095: Ali Abdaal | The Hidden Economics of Creative Success Part One

Oh, Dave, yeah. So Dave was a partner at my old law firm, so I used to be an attorney, just like you used to be a doctor. Good thing we did all that schooling, huh? That was nice. Those student loans are fun. And I was, at one point, just like fumbling through – figuring that they were going to fire me at any point working at this law firm, because I had imposter syndrome.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1095: Ali Abdaal | The Hidden Economics of Creative Success Part One

Oh, Dave, yeah. So Dave was a partner at my old law firm, so I used to be an attorney, just like you used to be a doctor. Good thing we did all that schooling, huh? That was nice. Those student loans are fun. And I was, at one point, just like fumbling through – figuring that they were going to fire me at any point working at this law firm, because I had imposter syndrome.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1095: Ali Abdaal | The Hidden Economics of Creative Success Part One

But back then, I didn't know what that was, right? I didn't think that everybody thought they were going to get found out as a fraud and fired from every first job that they had or every school they went to. And it turns out that's something that high performers deal with all the time. And I'm not saying I was a high performer.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1095: Ali Abdaal | The Hidden Economics of Creative Success Part One

But back then, I didn't know what that was, right? I didn't think that everybody thought they were going to get found out as a fraud and fired from every first job that they had or every school they went to. And it turns out that's something that high performers deal with all the time. And I'm not saying I was a high performer.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1095: Ali Abdaal | The Hidden Economics of Creative Success Part One

But back then, I didn't know what that was, right? I didn't think that everybody thought they were going to get found out as a fraud and fired from every first job that they had or every school they went to. And it turns out that's something that high performers deal with all the time. And I'm not saying I was a high performer.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1095: Ali Abdaal | The Hidden Economics of Creative Success Part One

In fact, I really thought I was at the bottom of the barrel, barely got into law school, was not in the, you know, those bars on websites that show like, this is what our average scores are. of that or below that. So that's not a great way to start law school or medical school. You just go, oh, I'm like below the average person that gets in here. Not a good feeling.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1095: Ali Abdaal | The Hidden Economics of Creative Success Part One

In fact, I really thought I was at the bottom of the barrel, barely got into law school, was not in the, you know, those bars on websites that show like, this is what our average scores are. of that or below that. So that's not a great way to start law school or medical school. You just go, oh, I'm like below the average person that gets in here. Not a good feeling.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1095: Ali Abdaal | The Hidden Economics of Creative Success Part One

In fact, I really thought I was at the bottom of the barrel, barely got into law school, was not in the, you know, those bars on websites that show like, this is what our average scores are. of that or below that. So that's not a great way to start law school or medical school. You just go, oh, I'm like below the average person that gets in here. Not a good feeling.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1095: Ali Abdaal | The Hidden Economics of Creative Success Part One

So when I got to the law firm after graduating law school, Dave was never in the office. And I thought, okay, if I also figure out how to never be in the office, they won't find out that I'm secretly a moron and fire me.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1095: Ali Abdaal | The Hidden Economics of Creative Success Part One

So when I got to the law firm after graduating law school, Dave was never in the office. And I thought, okay, if I also figure out how to never be in the office, they won't find out that I'm secretly a moron and fire me.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1095: Ali Abdaal | The Hidden Economics of Creative Success Part One

So when I got to the law firm after graduating law school, Dave was never in the office. And I thought, okay, if I also figure out how to never be in the office, they won't find out that I'm secretly a moron and fire me.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1095: Ali Abdaal | The Hidden Economics of Creative Success Part One

I can work from home and it'll take them longer to find out that I'm a total fraud and shouldn't have ever been hired in the first place, by which time I may have figured out how to do this job and be useful enough that they won't fire me. It still sort of makes sense when I put it like that. Yeah, I hope.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1095: Ali Abdaal | The Hidden Economics of Creative Success Part One

I can work from home and it'll take them longer to find out that I'm a total fraud and shouldn't have ever been hired in the first place, by which time I may have figured out how to do this job and be useful enough that they won't fire me. It still sort of makes sense when I put it like that. Yeah, I hope.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1095: Ali Abdaal | The Hidden Economics of Creative Success Part One

I can work from home and it'll take them longer to find out that I'm a total fraud and shouldn't have ever been hired in the first place, by which time I may have figured out how to do this job and be useful enough that they won't fire me. It still sort of makes sense when I put it like that. Yeah, I hope.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1095: Ali Abdaal | The Hidden Economics of Creative Success Part One

So Dave was also supposed to be my mentor, which is basically at that point, a checkbox on a form that human resources makes them sign. So other people's mentors were like, let's go out for drinks once a week and talk about your career. And again, Dave is never in the office. So I, HR is like, How is your mentorship going? And I'm like, I don't even, I've never seen the guy. I saw him one time.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1095: Ali Abdaal | The Hidden Economics of Creative Success Part One

So Dave was also supposed to be my mentor, which is basically at that point, a checkbox on a form that human resources makes them sign. So other people's mentors were like, let's go out for drinks once a week and talk about your career. And again, Dave is never in the office. So I, HR is like, How is your mentorship going? And I'm like, I don't even, I've never seen the guy. I saw him one time.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1095: Ali Abdaal | The Hidden Economics of Creative Success Part One

So Dave was also supposed to be my mentor, which is basically at that point, a checkbox on a form that human resources makes them sign. So other people's mentors were like, let's go out for drinks once a week and talk about your career. And again, Dave is never in the office. So I, HR is like, How is your mentorship going? And I'm like, I don't even, I've never seen the guy. I saw him one time.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1095: Ali Abdaal | The Hidden Economics of Creative Success Part One

And so I think they made him come into the office, which he loved, by the way, and take me to coffee at Starbucks in the basement of our building. Meanwhile, like I said, other people are going out for drinks. They're going to the steakhouse. They're going to see Blue Man Group. They have a real relationship with their so-called mentor, and I don't. And Dave's like, ask me anything you want.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1095: Ali Abdaal | The Hidden Economics of Creative Success Part One

And so I think they made him come into the office, which he loved, by the way, and take me to coffee at Starbucks in the basement of our building. Meanwhile, like I said, other people are going out for drinks. They're going to the steakhouse. They're going to see Blue Man Group. They have a real relationship with their so-called mentor, and I don't. And Dave's like, ask me anything you want.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1095: Ali Abdaal | The Hidden Economics of Creative Success Part One

And so I think they made him come into the office, which he loved, by the way, and take me to coffee at Starbucks in the basement of our building. Meanwhile, like I said, other people are going out for drinks. They're going to the steakhouse. They're going to see Blue Man Group. They have a real relationship with their so-called mentor, and I don't. And Dave's like, ask me anything you want.