Ali Salman

Absolutely.

Um, well, like if a big CEO comes in my mind, of course, Elon Musk, he's just been there.

Nathan, I followed you closely too.

And, uh, but I love tech CEOs and the way they work, the way, the way basically they're going to the company is so different than traditional guys.

Yeah.

So I was a huge podcast fan, right?

And one day, just looking at the top business podcasts, I was like, wow, I have to check out this top.

And I just love the content, 15 minutes, jam-packed, tons of good information, right?

And I used to listen to Pat Flynn, you know, Fire, Tim Ferriss, right?

But the way you...

especially guys like me who's numbers driven, I love it.

No, no, with you, I have been listening pretty consistently and with Tim, two to three podcasts, I'm pretty much listening pretty consistently.

That's awesome.

I would say Ninja Outreach.

I just actually discovered that.

It's an amazing tool for outreach blogging and also for old prospecting through email.