Alice Evans

So that's a good question. I think in the vast majority of cases worldwide, a very small share of births are IVF. That said, were the technology to have greater success rates and to be more accessible and more affordable, we might see a greater uptake because it addresses a fundamental issue of expanding women's reproductive freedom. So

So that's a good question. I think in the vast majority of cases worldwide, a very small share of births are IVF. That said, were the technology to have greater success rates and to be more accessible and more affordable, we might see a greater uptake because it addresses a fundamental issue of expanding women's reproductive freedom. So

You know, if people want to spend their 20s finding themselves or focusing on greedy jobs, you know, becoming ultra, ultra demanding, you're climbing the career ladder. And in their 30s, they're still struggling to find someone. But maybe, you know, in their late 30s, they do. Right. So lots of data suggests that people do tend to couple up a bit later. They're coupling up a bit, bit later.

You know, if people want to spend their 20s finding themselves or focusing on greedy jobs, you know, becoming ultra, ultra demanding, you're climbing the career ladder. And in their 30s, they're still struggling to find someone. But maybe, you know, in their late 30s, they do. Right. So lots of data suggests that people do tend to couple up a bit later. They're coupling up a bit, bit later.

So I can't predict that people are going to eventually couple up. But let's talk about that fraction of society who was single in their 20s, but finds the one at age 40. Right. But then that's the real trouble that at age 40, tick tock and women's wombs are no longer at 100%.

So I can't predict that people are going to eventually couple up. But let's talk about that fraction of society who was single in their 20s, but finds the one at age 40. Right. But then that's the real trouble that at age 40, tick tock and women's wombs are no longer at 100%.

And so that's where for that particular subgroup that IVF could be really, really helpful in enhancing women's reproductive freedoms and enabling the couples that form later to have more choices, to have more freedoms and expand. Yeah.

And so that's where for that particular subgroup that IVF could be really, really helpful in enhancing women's reproductive freedoms and enabling the couples that form later to have more choices, to have more freedoms and expand. Yeah.

Totally. I can understand that. Say, let's call it a moral hazard, right? If you pipe up a fertility solution, then people might put off children. So that's theoretically possible. I don't want to dismiss it. But if we look at the Pew data, right, for Americans under 35, you've got half of them saying they're single. And of those singles, the vast majority say they feel no pressure to couple up.

Totally. I can understand that. Say, let's call it a moral hazard, right? If you pipe up a fertility solution, then people might put off children. So that's theoretically possible. I don't want to dismiss it. But if we look at the Pew data, right, for Americans under 35, you've got half of them saying they're single. And of those singles, the vast majority say they feel no pressure to couple up.

No pressure to be in a relationship and perfectly happy with the status quo. And I don't think those secular monks we were talking about say, oh, it's fine. I'll find a woman in 20 years and we'll do IVF. I don't think that from my interviews, at least, I don't think IVF is entering into those calculations, partly because of what you precisely say.

No pressure to be in a relationship and perfectly happy with the status quo. And I don't think those secular monks we were talking about say, oh, it's fine. I'll find a woman in 20 years and we'll do IVF. I don't think that from my interviews, at least, I don't think IVF is entering into those calculations, partly because of what you precisely say.

Many people see IVF as unreliable, costly, expensive. So if IVF was currently cheap and everyone thought it was great, but we were all deluded and the scientists were deluding us and we were all overestimating its potential, then I think that explanation must have some credence. I think the hazard is possible. I don't think it's going on right now.

Many people see IVF as unreliable, costly, expensive. So if IVF was currently cheap and everyone thought it was great, but we were all deluded and the scientists were deluding us and we were all overestimating its potential, then I think that explanation must have some credence. I think the hazard is possible. I don't think it's going on right now.

So let me say that I think, given our recent discussion, each of these possible interventions has limited efficacy. Evidently, there is no magic bullet. And given the enormity of the fertility crisis, what I as a researcher would really like to see will be so many different initiatives and pilot initiatives. You know, how can we build community groups? You know, let's go back to religion.

So let me say that I think, given our recent discussion, each of these possible interventions has limited efficacy. Evidently, there is no magic bullet. And given the enormity of the fertility crisis, what I as a researcher would really like to see will be so many different initiatives and pilot initiatives. You know, how can we build community groups? You know, let's go back to religion.

One thing that I think that religions have done so well historically is building a sense of community. So I spent a lot of time in small town Alabama, and I went to local Bible study, and I went to the churches, and I chatted to the community. And that's really, really important in singing hymns together and praying together.

One thing that I think that religions have done so well historically is building a sense of community. So I spent a lot of time in small town Alabama, and I went to local Bible study, and I went to the churches, and I chatted to the community. And that's really, really important in singing hymns together and praying together.

That builds a sense of cohesion, those collective rituals, which also secular organizations could do. So we can organize, we can try a hundred different things. Let a hundred flowers bloom. So try all these little community events, Perhaps see how we can regulate technology in some ways at some periods in some ventures. And let's see how we can increase women's reproductive freedoms.

That builds a sense of cohesion, those collective rituals, which also secular organizations could do. So we can organize, we can try a hundred different things. Let a hundred flowers bloom. So try all these little community events, Perhaps see how we can regulate technology in some ways at some periods in some ventures. And let's see how we can increase women's reproductive freedoms.