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Alice Evans

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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How the iPhone Drove Men and Women Apart

Let me say, I think that's an interesting hypothesis. But I think you see young people still doing things that are painful. So whether it's young women, you know, trying to get an Instagram face and having fillers and Botox and painful things or men spending painful times at the gym being secular monks, people do painful stuff.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How the iPhone Drove Men and Women Apart

Let me say, I think that's an interesting hypothesis. But I think you see young people still doing things that are painful. So whether it's young women, you know, trying to get an Instagram face and having fillers and Botox and painful things or men spending painful times at the gym being secular monks, people do painful stuff.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How the iPhone Drove Men and Women Apart

I think the more direct causal link is people spending time on their phones and then feeling anxious about chatting to people at the bar.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How the iPhone Drove Men and Women Apart

I think the more direct causal link is people spending time on their phones and then feeling anxious about chatting to people at the bar.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How the iPhone Drove Men and Women Apart

I certainly think that people seem to be wanting to extend the freedoms and the lack of responsibility in their 20s. And let's add that, for example, in my interviews with Latin American men, many are saying to me that they don't necessarily want marriage and kids because it comes with those responsibilities. Right. And I think this could be even more salient than the pain of pregnancy.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How the iPhone Drove Men and Women Apart

I certainly think that people seem to be wanting to extend the freedoms and the lack of responsibility in their 20s. And let's add that, for example, in my interviews with Latin American men, many are saying to me that they don't necessarily want marriage and kids because it comes with those responsibilities. Right. And I think this could be even more salient than the pain of pregnancy.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How the iPhone Drove Men and Women Apart

Imagine if you're a guy in a pretty crappy labor market with lots of informal labor, lots of insecurity, lots of massive financial shocks and crises and inflationary pressures. And you're like, do I want to commit to a woman and say that we're going to raise two kids together and feel all that strain and responsibility? Or do I just want to chill out and play Call of Duty?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How the iPhone Drove Men and Women Apart

Imagine if you're a guy in a pretty crappy labor market with lots of informal labor, lots of insecurity, lots of massive financial shocks and crises and inflationary pressures. And you're like, do I want to commit to a woman and say that we're going to raise two kids together and feel all that strain and responsibility? Or do I just want to chill out and play Call of Duty?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How the iPhone Drove Men and Women Apart

So that I think is, that's a really salient. I mean, I think that... progressives have generally underestimated how much women benefit from, as you were saying earlier, making that commitment of monogamous, permanent devotion and support. I think that while feminists have historically championed freedoms and shared care work, which are, of course, crucial to gender equality,

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How the iPhone Drove Men and Women Apart

So that I think is, that's a really salient. I mean, I think that... progressives have generally underestimated how much women benefit from, as you were saying earlier, making that commitment of monogamous, permanent devotion and support. I think that while feminists have historically championed freedoms and shared care work, which are, of course, crucial to gender equality,

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How the iPhone Drove Men and Women Apart

The people that actually listen to those messages of freedoms, pleasure and shared care work are men who love, who are emotionally connected and who value companionship with their wives. And now many men are saying, maybe I don't want those things. You know, maybe that's not everything I need. And that's a hugely important and undertold aspect of this global story. Yeah.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How the iPhone Drove Men and Women Apart

The people that actually listen to those messages of freedoms, pleasure and shared care work are men who love, who are emotionally connected and who value companionship with their wives. And now many men are saying, maybe I don't want those things. You know, maybe that's not everything I need. And that's a hugely important and undertold aspect of this global story. Yeah.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How the iPhone Drove Men and Women Apart

So I'm reluctant to make predictions, but... These are not predictions.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How the iPhone Drove Men and Women Apart

So I'm reluctant to make predictions, but... These are not predictions.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How the iPhone Drove Men and Women Apart

if fertility continues to decline and we are either ineffective or inactive, and simultaneously we do not have a large rise in immigration, which is super productive and super economically active, and simultaneously we do not see a massive boom in AI productivity. So if none of those countervailing forces occur, then we're all going to become

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How the iPhone Drove Men and Women Apart

if fertility continues to decline and we are either ineffective or inactive, and simultaneously we do not have a large rise in immigration, which is super productive and super economically active, and simultaneously we do not see a massive boom in AI productivity. So if none of those countervailing forces occur, then we're all going to become

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How the iPhone Drove Men and Women Apart

much poorer and perhaps politically also we might see some shifts with a rising, you know, support for more conservative groups.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How the iPhone Drove Men and Women Apart

much poorer and perhaps politically also we might see some shifts with a rising, you know, support for more conservative groups.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How the iPhone Drove Men and Women Apart

For example, in the US, it's Republicans, as you know, who have more kids, right? So we should predict that Republicans will win more elections just by virtue of fertility. In Europe, we will just all become much poorer. Our public services will continue to deteriorate and we will have less spending power. So Europe is just in an economic doom loop.

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
How the iPhone Drove Men and Women Apart

For example, in the US, it's Republicans, as you know, who have more kids, right? So we should predict that Republicans will win more elections just by virtue of fertility. In Europe, we will just all become much poorer. Our public services will continue to deteriorate and we will have less spending power. So Europe is just in an economic doom loop.