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Alice Han

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Appearances Over Time

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The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

Okay, so my prediction is more on the back of French President Emmanuel Macron's recent trip to China, which felt very Gaullist.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

You know, if you're a student of history and the 60s, you'll understand why.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

The fandom that he received in China was pretty incredible.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

But I think it's paintball.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

over a relationship that is deteriorating between Europe and China.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

Europe runs a huge deficit with China to the tune of $350 billion in 2024.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

I could see the Chinese offer olive branches, so to speak.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

There were Airbus officials there.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

Now, in the past, they've had Airbus officials in previous trade deals.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

But I think that the Chinese could potentially offer the olive branch of buying more Airbus planes.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

I could see them dropping certain investigations into, say, European pork, again, to help the relationship.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

They've certainly started to do this French cognac.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

But on the flip side, I sense in Europe, and I want to get your quick take on this too, my prediction in the European context is that we're going to see a lot more in the form of trade investigations, tariffs and non-tariff barriers against Chinese goods.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

and a more concerted effort to de-risk from China.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

I think the critical minerals part is a big part of this as well.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

So I think we're going to have a two-pronged nature to this relationship.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

On the one hand, China trying to make nice, and on the other hand, the Europeans on a totally different planet where they're very, very concerned about the dependency on China.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

Definitely watch this space.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

And I know you're heading to Europe, so we'll definitely touch base next week.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

All right, that's all for this episode.