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Alice Han

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2679 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

They obtained the IPO approval from the Shanghai Stock Exchange in 88 days, and that's a record in SSE history.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

And then we've got other listings that are coming down the pipeline as well that's worth watching.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

Apparently, the Shanghai Stock Exchange has approved applications from other chip makers like MetaX, Integrated Circuits, SJ Semiconductor,

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

So there's a whole host, as you're rightly mentioning, James, within an ecosystem that they're really trying to rapidly build in chips.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

But the bullish case is that it's going to end up being something like Cambricorn, which is a chip maker for AI accelerators.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

And that's seen a 14-fold surge in revenues in Q3.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

Now the company's finally profitable.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

after running losses.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

But, you know, we were doing the maths together.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

In the first three quarters of this year, revenues are up 181% year-on-year.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

But still, in the last three years, Moore Threads has run $6 billion of losses.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

It's still not yet profitable.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

And as we mentioned previously at the top of this episode, October 2023, Moore's Threads was added to the U.S.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

's entity listing.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

So there's a ban on what it can import.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

And right now, to your point, James, they're trying to offer these GPUs within a full stack of chips, networking and software that is used to run the chips in data centers.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

So the goal really is to help in AI training, 3D graphics rendering and physical simulation.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

Whether or not they can get there and be competitive in NVIDIA remains to be seen, but it certainly is a compelling story, not just because of the government push, but even the background of the founder.

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

This is a guy who worked at NVIDIA

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway
China Decode: Why Apple Can't Quit China (ft. Patrick McGee)

at the China desk for 15 years.