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And I think we in the West need to continue to engage to see what's actually happening. Because more often than not, it will surprise us what's actually happening on the ground. So I'd highly recommend you go back, Scott.

And I think we in the West need to continue to engage to see what's actually happening. Because more often than not, it will surprise us what's actually happening on the ground. So I'd highly recommend you go back, Scott.

Next podcast.

Next podcast.

Next podcast.

Thanks so much, Ed. Thanks, Scott. See you next time.

Thanks so much, Ed. Thanks, Scott. See you next time.

Thanks so much, Ed. Thanks, Scott. See you next time.