Alice Levine

As you've said, you know, she was, for want of a better expression, part of the family.

And then she's out in the world and has no idea what this reaction has been.

Did you have personal feelings about that?

Would it have felt inappropriate then to you and the team to remove it from the edit, leave it in the stream, but, you know, be ready for people to ask the question why it wasn't there, but kind of have it justified because it was hateful?

And I guess previously nothing of high drama or nothing of high controversy would have been taken out.

Of course, that would have gone in the episode.

I don't think it's too strong to say that many people hated Jade.

You know, there was real vitriol in the press and in the public, but a lot of people also felt really sorry for her.

I'm wondering what your reaction was when you heard that Jade was going on Big Boss in India, hosted by Shilpa Shetty.

Okay, go on.

As you say, serious strength of feeling.

What do you think it said about society at the time that people were so consumed by it?

I mean, kind of addicted to it.

People couldn't not watch the stream.

And other reality TV, I think.

That authenticity, honesty thing becomes a very important characteristic of being on a reality show, which is kind of ironic because a lot of the reality shows that came later were constructed reality.

But I feel like that was a hallmark of successful people on reality TV, that people felt like they were being themselves.

And it was very human.

Often that was almost your only opportunity in Big Brother to speak freely.

I feel like people had those conversations feeling like it was more off the record than any of the other conversations in the house.